Richard And List,
May I also add to your constructive criticism, the following? PDI should 
consider different models of the Braillenote for different markets.  Possibly 
PDI could offfer a Braillenote Professional, and also a Braillenote Home model. 
 In this way, one model of the Braillenote does not have to be all thing to all 
Braillenote users.

Sincerely,
Jerry Weinger
Then

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: richard Van Driel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Braillenote List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 04:38:41 +1200
>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Another idea for future upgrades:

>Hi Kirstyn,
>I know what you mean!
>When I first got my braille note, it was the best thing going.
>I tried the braillelite, and found the speech atrocious.
>I have a hearing impairment, which basically means that, the device with the 
>clearest speech is going to get a high score, if it is just as good as the 
>other device with poorer speech.
>I will be taking a class on the pacmate in may, (I hope) but I already know 
>that the speech is a little less clear for me because, 1 the speaker is 
>smaller and, 2 the amp doesn't put out as much power as the bn.
>What prompted me to get the bn was the fact that I could use the braille 
>display and/or speech.
>I taught a class in my church, and being able to use the braille display 
>without speech was a great help there, letting me hear my students and keep 
>track of my lesson without having to mess around with neckloops and earphones.
>But I like what I've seen of the Pacmate, in that it just seems more versatile.
>What I don't understand, is why pdi keeps harping on the (oh so nasty) 
>graphical interface.
>For those of us who use Windows with Jaws, we get along ok with that nasty old 
>gui!
>Why does pdi not concentrate on making gui easier for blind people to use by 
>adapting their product to handle commands so that we can use it with the 
>minimum of roundabouts?
>I think many things might be automated, so that what might be a roundabout 
>could be done with one menu option or keystroke.
>>From what I have read on the pm list for example, there's quite a little 
>>roundabout to disconnecting when online.
>There is no such problem with the bn, so why not incorporate that same quick 
>way in whatever you use for your system, whether that's pocket pc or Linux or 
>whatever?
>One thing that's becoming obvious to me is that Keysoft is out of date and way 
>too proprietorial and inflexible for users who need to modify it.
>The Windows ce we use is the same, but even so, it has already built in some 
>of the things that would make the bn more versatile.
>The results are sometimes a problem, since we are denied access to the Windows 
>Ce itself, we can't fix some things that, I would assume are handled quite 
>well on regular pdas.
>For example, why is there not a way to erase or control the "history file on 
>the ks disk that we heard about some time ago?
>It's a windows bile, not a keysoft file, and according to Pdi, the only way to 
>get rid of it temporarily is to do a hard reset.
>IF you don't, it eventually takes up all the space on the ks disk.
>Furthermore, Ks doesn't use this folder or file or whatever it is.
>Ok, so here's my question.
>How is this file or whatever handled on a regular pda? What is done so that 
>you don't lose all your memory just from this one thing on a regular pda?
>I seriously don't believe that Ipaq or any of the other pda manufacturers or, 
>for that matter, Microsoft would market something with that glaring a defect 
>for long.
>No, there is a way this is handled on a normal pda.
>Why not take advantage of this Pdi,
>Also, why create a trash folder etc, when this is already built into Windows?
>Why have a very limited media player if the capacity is already there to have 
>a full one in Ce?
>And why have a suite of software that, according to your own admission, is 
>really hard to make wireless compatible when Windows Ce gives you that 
>capacity?
>Use a suite that lets us fully have access to Windows capability and make it 
>flexible enough that a user can get programs he wants or needs to work with it.
>I don't give a darn if it's a gui or not, all I ask is that it be easy to use 
>and as consistent as possible.
>The reality is that most applications that people use nowdays are, in some way 
>graphical, and that people want their technology to keep up.
>Make the bn more versatile by,
>1 making it possible to script for it (as is done on Pacmate) so that people 
>can add programs.
>2 use all of the possibilities of the Windows Ce system, making as much of it 
>as possible available to the user.
>3 At least make it possible for users to use some of the stuff available for 
>the pda, such as pocket excel and the latest Pocket word, if not for use, then 
>for translation so that we won't have all the problems with that that we now 
>have.
>Use proprietary software only where the regular software doesn't work.
>Pm did this with the Windows version of the calculator, and create a much 
>better calculator with more functions.
>Because it uses Pocket Pc, it can accept programs that work with regular pdas 
>and because Jaws is a script capable program, scripts can be written so that 
>things that might not work normally on the Pacmate can and do.
>That is what the Pacmategear site is all about.
>Remember, there are people who use the bn in school and college, and it's 
>important to have as much flexibility as possible.
>As for buying a laptop, Kirstyn already answered that one, and besides even 
>though laptops have gotten smaller, in comparison to the bn or pm, they are 
>still delicate and rather bulky, when you consider the case and all, and I 
>think they are also heavier.
>WHY drag around a laptop when most pdas could handle what you want to do?
>Only one reason, we can't see to use it.
>But, if Pacmate can handle all these things, and still be accessible to the 
>people for whom it is designed, then, surely, the bn could and if the reason 
>it can't is because of outdated hardware and software, then obviously, it's 
>time for more than just a new planner, although that is good, and a more 
>advanced sync, it's time to update and upgrade and use that which will make 
>the unit more flexible, Gui or not.
>Thanks for listening to my ramblings! (lol)

>Richard     ----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Kirstyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: Braillenote List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Date: Sat,  3 Apr 2004 11:56:05 +0000 (UTC)
>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Another idea for future upgrades:

>>Hi Jim,

>>    I hope fervently that PDI does not agree with your attitude.  The BN 
>> users--or I should say, the former BN users--who are now on the PACMate list 
>> did exactly what you are telling us to do now just to get us to shut up.  
>> They sold their BN and got a PAC Mate.  The difference between them and 
>> those who, like me, are still hoping to see the BrailleNote keep pace, is 
>> that--we are still hoping, while they decided not to and just switched.  
>> What PDI and users like you, Jim, should do is not to tell more users to 
>> switch or treat those who have as though they made the wrong decision, but 
>> to show us that in time, we will shake off the feeling of wanting to switch 
>> because the BrailleNote is still keeping abreast.
>>    Stop challenging BrailleNote users to sell their BrailleNote and get a 
>> PACMate because if it is not yet obvious to you, this is counterproductive 
>> for PDI.  Instead, use your fingers to type a post for PDI, urging them to 
>> get their act together and find better ways of facing the competition and 
>> prevent their customers from taking the expensive leap of getting a PM.  
>> This is not about ranting.  This is about telling PDI that we are willing to 
>> hang on to our BrailleNotes, but not forever.  I'm tired of reading posts 
>> from Jonathan Mosen or whoever assuring us that this and that request will 
>> be taken into consideration for a future upgrade.  Anyone can say that, and 
>> who in his right mind will say otherwise? But I want to see action.
>>    I do not want to see a version 5.2 with just one KeySoft application 
>> being improved and the long-standing urgent problems linger.  5.0 was 
>> released in late August 2003, 5.1 was released in March 2004.  I am 
>> disappointed to see that in about seven months time during which PDI was 
>> expected to develop an upgrade, we got only a new planner system and a word 
>> count feature that only solves the inconvenience of using the spell checker 
>> to get the number of words--I was able to check the number of sentences and 
>> lines with my BrailleLite.  Meanwhile, in the same amount of time, other PDA 
>> users got more speed and more memory, and discovered more third-party 
>> applications that work well with their product.
>>    We waited longer for 5.0 and got a bit more, but I still feel it was a 
>> half-baked upgrade.  We got a stopwatch that could not be used as a 
>> countdown timer.  We got a media player that plays only MP3 files with 
>> certain limitations to sample rates.  We got a better translator that does 
>> not agree with the speech and so words that appear right in Braille are 
>> translated incorrectly to text and read wrong with speech.  We got KeySync 
>> but it only works for contacts and calendar, not email, and still the speed 
>> of synchronization or the choking on large files was not addressed.  Add to 
>> that the lingering problems with KeyMail and KeyWeb, and the File Manager 
>> that lacks some useful functions that Richard posted a rehash of a 
>> suggestion that I have seen from other users before but sadly, still no 
>> response--concrete response--from PDI.
>>    Like I said, they are way too slow in playing catch-up.  And with a post 
>> like yours, users are beginning to think that PDI will never catch up so you 
>> are advising us to shut up and get a PACMate.  Do you realize that in your 
>> desire to defend the BrailleNote, the faster you are causing it to plunge 
>> downhill?
>>    Another misinformation about the PACMate.  You do not lose data as soon 
>> as the battery goes flat.  The Lithium Polymer battery used by newer PM 
>> units, or the Lithium Ion used on the version 1.xx units, will guarantee 
>> that if the battery goes flat, you will retain your data in 72 hours--that's 
>> three days.  I do not suppose any wise user will wait for three days before 
>> charging the battery.  You say, "What if I'm out of town and forgot my 
>> charger?" As it is obvious, that's user error and irresponsibility, not the 
>> product's fault.
>>    PM users also save files to cf cards and they do not lose these files 
>> when the batteries go flat, even if the cards are plugged in.  With the 
>> BrailleNote, you may lose the files in your cf card if you had been working 
>> on a large file saved to a cf card.  The problem with large files getting 
>> truncated or wiped clean--which I still experience with 5.1 and .rtf 
>> files--is not linked to where you have the file; whether it's in the Flash 
>> Disk or compact flash card, you can still lose it.  Like I said in my other 
>> post, if you overwrite your bacup of the email database with one you did not 
>> know was already corrupted, you'll lose that, too, even if it's on the cf 
>> card.
>>    No, I did not write those last two paragraphs merely to compare the PM 
>> and the BN.  My purpose? To show you and PDI that you cannot claim the 
>> BrailleNote is still leading just because of the battery and losing of data, 
>> since this is no longer an urgent issue with the PACMate.  So stop focusing 
>> on what you think the competition cannot do and hail that the BrailleNote 
>> can do that.  Start looking on what the BrailleNote cannot do, and that the 
>> competition can, and do something about it, and please, at least for our 
>> money's worth, do it fast while we're still holding on to our BrailleNotes.

>>Sincerely,
>>Kirstyn



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