Hi All, Yea, we can even call our system "Soft Jaws."
Jay Dailey > ----- Original Message ----- >From: richard Van Driel <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Braillenote List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 01:01:34 +1200 >Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Another idea for future upgrades: >yeh Josh, and you could be president. >Just be sure and let me have a ride in the corprate jet ok? >Richard >> ----- Original Message ----- >>From: Josh Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: Braillenote List <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 15:38:32 -0400 >>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Another idea for future upgrades: >>hey! cool! I'd buy a pacnote. When will they go on sale!!? >>That was kind of funny. But it sounds neat. but let's make some changes. >>We'll combine all three companies. ... Freedom scientific, pulsedata, and >>gw--micro. >>Josh >>you wrote: >>Okay, I have a solution to your problem. Let's merge pulsedata and freedom >>scientific and call it pulse scientific. They could combine their >>notetakers >>and call it the pacnote. >>Then we would have all the advantages of both devices along with all their >>combined shortcomings. >>Would this suit anyone? I doubt it. >><grin >>Thanks, >>Bob >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>From: richard Van Driel < >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: Braillenote List < >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 04:38:41 +1200 >>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Another idea for future upgrades: >>>Hi Kirstyn, >>>I know what you mean! >>>When I first got my braille note, it was the best thing going. >>>I tried the braillelite, and found the speech atrocious. >>>I have a hearing impairment, which basically means that, the device with >>the clearest speech is going to get a high score, if it is just as good as >>the >>other device with poorer speech. >>>I will be taking a class on the pacmate in may, (I hope) but I already know >>that the speech is a little less clear for me because, 1 the speaker is >>smaller >>and, 2 the amp doesn't put out as much power as the bn. >>>What prompted me to get the bn was the fact that I could use the braille >>display and/or speech. >>>I taught a class in my church, and being able to use the braille display >>without speech was a great help there, letting me hear my students and keep >>track >>of my lesson without having to mess around with neckloops and earphones. >>>But I like what I've seen of the Pacmate, in that it just seems more >>versatile. >>>What I don't understand, is why pdi keeps harping on the (oh so nasty) >>graphical interface. >>>For those of us who use Windows with Jaws, we get along ok with that nasty >>old gui! >>>Why does pdi not concentrate on making gui easier for blind people to use >>by adapting their product to handle commands so that we can use it with the >>minimum >>of roundabouts? >>>I think many things might be automated, so that what might be a roundabout >>could be done with one menu option or keystroke. >>>>From what I have read on the pm list for example, there's quite a little >>roundabout to disconnecting when online. >>>There is no such problem with the bn, so why not incorporate that same >>quick way in whatever you use for your system, whether that's pocket pc or >>Linux >>or whatever? >>>One thing that's becoming obvious to me is that Keysoft is out of date and >>way too proprietorial and inflexible for users who need to modify it. >>>The Windows ce we use is the same, but even so, it has already built in >>some of the things that would make the bn more versatile. >>>The results are sometimes a problem, since we are denied access to the >>Windows Ce itself, we can't fix some things that, I would assume are handled >>quite >>well on regular pdas. >>>For example, why is there not a way to erase or control the "history file >>on the ks disk that we heard about some time ago? >>>It's a windows bile, not a keysoft file, and according to Pdi, the only way >>to get rid of it temporarily is to do a hard reset. >>>IF you don't, it eventually takes up all the space on the ks disk. >>>Furthermore, Ks doesn't use this folder or file or whatever it is. >>>Ok, so here's my question. >>>How is this file or whatever handled on a regular pda? What is done so that >>you don't lose all your memory just from this one thing on a regular pda? >>>I seriously don't believe that Ipaq or any of the other pda manufacturers >>or, for that matter, Microsoft would market something with that glaring a >>defect >>for long. >>>No, there is a way this is handled on a normal pda. >>>Why not take advantage of this Pdi, >>>Also, why create a trash folder etc, when this is already built into >>Windows? >>>Why have a very limited media player if the capacity is already there to >>have a full one in Ce? >>>And why have a suite of software that, according to your own admission, is >>really hard to make wireless compatible when Windows Ce gives you that >>capacity? >>>Use a suite that lets us fully have access to Windows capability and make >>it flexible enough that a user can get programs he wants or needs to work >>with >>it. >>>I don't give a darn if it's a gui or not, all I ask is that it be easy to >>use and as consistent as possible. >>>The reality is that most applications that people use nowdays are, in some >>way graphical, and that people want their technology to keep up. >>>Make the bn more versatile by, >>>1 making it possible to script for it (as is done on Pacmate) so that >>people can add programs. >>>2 use all of the possibilities of the Windows Ce system, making as much of >>it as possible available to the user. >>>3 At least make it possible for users to use some of the stuff available >>for the pda, such as pocket excel and the latest Pocket word, if not for >>use, >>then for translation so that we won't have all the problems with that that >>we now have. >>>Use proprietary software only where the regular software doesn't work. >>>Pm did this with the Windows version of the calculator, and create a much >>better calculator with more functions. >>>Because it uses Pocket Pc, it can accept programs that work with regular >>pdas and because Jaws is a script capable program, scripts can be written so >>that >>things that might not work normally on the Pacmate can and do. >>>That is what the Pacmategear site is all about. >>>Remember, there are people who use the bn in school and college, and it's >>important to have as much flexibility as possible. >>>As for buying a laptop, Kirstyn already answered that one, and besides even >>though laptops have gotten smaller, in comparison to the bn or pm, they are >>still delicate and rather bulky, when you consider the case and all, and I >>think they are also heavier. >>>WHY drag around a laptop when most pdas could handle what you want to do? >>>Only one reason, we can't see to use it. >>>But, if Pacmate can handle all these things, and still be accessible to the >>people for whom it is designed, then, surely, the bn could and if the reason >>it can't is because of outdated hardware and software, then obviously, it's >>time for more than just a new planner, although that is good, and a more >>advanced >>sync, it's time to update and upgrade and use that which will make the unit >>more flexible, Gui or not. >>>Thanks for listening to my ramblings! (lol) >>>Richard ----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Kirstyn" < >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To: Braillenote List < >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 11:56:05 +0000 (UTC) >>>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] Another idea for future upgrades: >>>>Hi Jim, >>>> I hope fervently that PDI does not agree with your attitude. The BN >>users--or I should say, the former BN users--who are now on the PACMate list >>did exactly what you are telling us to do now just to get us to shut up. >>They sold their BN and got a PAC Mate. The difference between them and >>those >>who, like me, are still hoping to see the BrailleNote keep pace, is that--we >>are still hoping, while they decided not to and just switched. What PDI and >>users like you, Jim, should do is not to tell more users to switch or treat >>those who have as though they made the wrong decision, but to show us that >>in time, we will shake off the feeling of wanting to switch because the >>BrailleNote is still keeping abreast. >>>> Stop challenging BrailleNote users to sell their BrailleNote and get a >>PACMate because if it is not yet obvious to you, this is counterproductive >>for PDI. Instead, use your fingers to type a post for PDI, urging them to >>get their act together and find better ways of facing the competition and >>prevent >>their customers from taking the expensive leap of getting a PM. This is not >>about ranting. This is about telling PDI that we are willing to hang on to >>our BrailleNotes, but not forever. I'm tired of reading posts from Jonathan >>Mosen or whoever assuring us that this and that request will be taken into >>consideration for a future upgrade. Anyone can say that, and who in his >>right mind will say otherwise? But I want to see action. >>>> I do not want to see a version 5.2 with just one KeySoft application >>being improved and the long-standing urgent problems linger. 5.0 was >>released >>in late August 2003, 5.1 was released in March 2004. I am disappointed to >>see that in about seven months time during which PDI was expected to develop >>an upgrade, we got only a new planner system and a word count feature that >>only solves the inconvenience of using the spell checker to get the number >>of >>words--I was able to check the number of sentences and lines with my >>BrailleLite. Meanwhile, in the same amount of time, other PDA users got >>more speed >>and more memory, and discovered more third-party applications that work well >>with their product. >>>> We waited longer for 5.0 and got a bit more, but I still feel it was a >>half-baked upgrade. We got a stopwatch that could not be used as a >>countdown >>timer. We got a media player that plays only MP3 files with certain >>limitations to sample rates. We got a better translator that does not agree >>with >>the speech and so words that appear right in Braille are translated >>incorrectly to text and read wrong with speech. We got KeySync but it only >>works for >>contacts and calendar, not email, and still the speed of synchronization or >>the choking on large files was not addressed. Add to that the lingering >>problems >>with KeyMail and KeyWeb, and the File Manager that lacks some useful >>functions that Richard posted a rehash of a suggestion that I have seen from >>other >>users before but sadly, still no response--concrete response--from PDI. >>>> Like I said, they are way too slow in playing catch-up. And with a >>post like yours, users are beginning to think that PDI will never catch up >>so >>you are advising us to shut up and get a PACMate. Do you realize that in >>your desire to defend the BrailleNote, the faster you are causing it to >>plunge >>downhill? >>>> Another misinformation about the PACMate. You do not lose data as >>soon as the battery goes flat. The Lithium Polymer battery used by newer PM >>units, >>or the Lithium Ion used on the version 1.xx units, will guarantee that if >>the battery goes flat, you will retain your data in 72 hours--that's three >>days. >> I do not suppose any wise user will wait for three days before charging the >>battery. You say, "What if I'm out of town and forgot my charger?" As it >>is obvious, that's user error and irresponsibility, not the product's fault. >>>> PM users also save files to cf cards and they do not lose these files >>when the batteries go flat, even if the cards are plugged in. With the >>BrailleNote, >>you may lose the files in your cf card if you had been working on a large >>file saved to a cf card. The problem with large files getting truncated or >>wiped >>clean--which I still experience with 5.1 and .rtf files--is not linked to >>where you have the file; whether it's in the Flash Disk or compact flash >>card, >>you can still lose it. Like I said in my other post, if you overwrite your >>bacup of the email database with one you did not know was already corrupted, >>you'll lose that, too, even if it's on the cf card. >>>> No, I did not write those last two paragraphs merely to compare the PM >>and the BN. My purpose? To show you and PDI that you cannot claim the >>BrailleNote >>is still leading just because of the battery and losing of data, since this >>is no longer an urgent issue with the PACMate. So stop focusing on what you >>think the competition cannot do and hail that the BrailleNote can do that. >>Start looking on what the BrailleNote cannot do, and that the competition >>can, >>and do something about it, and please, at least for our money's worth, do it >>fast while we're still holding on to our BrailleNotes. >>>>Sincerely, >>>>Kirstyn >>>>___ >>>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>>___ >>>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>___ >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >>___ >>To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >>http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote >___ >To leave the BrailleNote list, send a blank message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To view the list archives or change your preferences, visit >http://list.pulsedata.com/mailman/listinfo/braillenote
