hello Terri, I can't explain the garbage that you're receiving in the document. This might be due to the fact that IE4 which is what KeyWeb runs on, is not interpreting the HTML correctly. As I say, this is just a guess.
If you are getting grade two in text files, your settings should be set correctly to receive grade two in HTML files. I know there is an issue whereby KeyWeb will sometimes display computer Braille when the page in question is first opened but I've found this is usually corrected with a keystroke. If you still have any problems, send me the keysoft.ksd file in the dictionaries folder on the flash disk, along with any HTML files you are worried about and I'll have a look at what you've got. Obviously if you do this, I'll need information on exactly how you saved the file and the URL etc. Regards, Dean Jackson Customer/Technical Analyst Pulse Data International Ltd. DDI: +64 3 373 6184 Fax: +64-3-384 4933 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internet: www.pulsedata.com __________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Braillenote List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [Braillenote] reading HTML files locally on the BN > Dear Dean, > > I tried what you suggested and it worked just fine. > > Now, all I need to know is why the html files appear in computer braille, > why there's some garbage in them, and why some data gets lost in some of the > files. (grin). > > Terri Pannett, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign AAT9PX, > California > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dean Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Braillenote List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 9:06 PM > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] reading HTML files locally on the BN > > > : > : Hello Terri, > : > : Terri, what was the syntax you tried to use for typing in the path? > : > : If you press backspace while in your list of favourites, you will > eventually > : come to the folder name prompt and then if you desire, to the drive > prompt. > : You should then be able to select the file manually rather than typing in > : the path and your read with x should work normally as well. > : > : Let me know if you require further help and I'll bring a QT to the desk > and > : go through it with you step by step. > : > : > : Regards, > : > : Dean Jackson > : Customer/Technical Analyst > : Pulse Data International Ltd. > : > : DDI: +64 3 373 6184 > : Fax: +64-3-384 4933 > : Email: > : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > : Internet: > : www.pulsedata.com > : __________________________ > : ----- Original Message ----- > : From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : To: "Braillenote List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 3:10 PM > : Subject: Re: [Braillenote] reading HTML files locally on the BN > : > : > : > Dear Dean, > : > > : > I used Keyweb to open the html documents. I'm using a QT keyboard. I > : > couldn't figure out how to access a list of all documents on my compact > : > flash card with the browser open.. According to the manual, I was > : supposed > : > to type the path and file name of the html document. I wasn't able to > use > : > read with x to bring up the all files option and I couldn't use the > space > : > bar to cycle through the list. These methods only worked when I copied > : the > : > documents from the compact flash card to the my favorites folder on the > : > flash disk. > : > > : > These documents all came from the Nokia how-to online manual for the > Nokia > : > 3200 cell phone. I believe the URL is www.nokiahowto.com. I was able > to > : > access a link leading to this page from www.nokiausa.com. Nokia's web > : site > : > is quite complex, and I'm always requested to download MacroMedia Player > : and > : > I always refuse. I can see why the site might be a challenge for the > BN. > : > > : > If it would be helpful, I could send a sample of these documents as > : > attachments. > : > > : > Terri Pannett, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign > AAT9PX, > : > California > : > ----- Original Message ----- > : > From: "Dean Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : > To: "Braillenote List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 1:56 PM > : > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] reading HTML files locally on the BN > : > > : > > : > : > : > : Hello Terri, > : > : > : > : Terri, I require a little more information from you. Please review > your > : > : message below along with my comments . > : > : > : > : I may be able to comment further upon doing some software testing next > : > week > : > : and talking to the software developers. > : > : Dean. > : > : > : > : ----- Original Message ----- > : > : From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : > : To: "Braillenote List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : > : Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 7:18 AM > : > : Subject: Re: [Braillenote] reading HTML files locally on the BN > : > : > : > : > : > : > Dear Dean, > : > : > > : > : > I copied some HTML documents from my PC to the BN using the > : CompactFlash > : > : > card. I discovered the following: > : > : > > : > : > 1. I couldn't make the BN cycle through the list of html files on > the > : > : > CompactFlash card. Since the documents had long file names, I > didn't > : > want > : > : > to type the full pathname. Could something be done so you can cycle > : > : through > : > : > html files stored on a CompactFlash card? As a work-around, I > copied > : > the > : > : > files from the CompactFlash card to the My Favorites folder. > : > : > : > : Terri, how were you trying to cycle through the files on the card? > : Which > : > : file list in KeySoft were you using? Did you try pressing space with > : x?> > : > : > : > : > 2. Some of the documents read well, but others had lots of garbage > in > : > : them. > : > : > By garbage, I mean 1 pixel, option field this and that, etc. > : > : Terri, I am presuming that you read all the documents in KeyWeb? > : > : > : > : > 3. Sometimes, the browser would say a document was 100% finished, > but > : > the > : > : > BN still beeped. When I pressed escape, the documents appeared in > : > : computer > : > : > braille instead of grade 2. I was able to read others in perfect > : grade > : > 2 > : > : > braille. > : > : Terri, this problem is quite possibly due to the fact that KeyWeb is > : still > : > : running on IE4 and certain problems are indeed encountered when > attempts > : > are > : > : made to access websites with complex functionality that is not yet > : > : supported. > : > : > : > : > 4. Some of the documents not only had garbage in them but some of > the > : > : data > : > : > was lost. > : > : Terri, can you please point me to websites where you have experienced > : this > : > : problem for testing purposes? > : > : > I ended up editing the html documents using my PC and transferred > them > : > to > : > : my > : > : > BN. Note: when I opened the documents with lost data using Internet > : > : > Explorer, all of the "lost" data was there. > : > : > > : > : > Perhaps there's a difference to the BN's mind between reading html > : > : documents > : > : > saved with IE and reading html documents straight from the web. > : > : Terri, Again, KeyWeb is still running IE4. This could be related to > : > : differences in how it handles HTML or how we are handling the > : information > : > : being extracted from IE4. > : > : > : > : > Terri Pannett, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign > : > AAT9PX, > : > : > California > : > : > ----- Original Message ----- > : > : > From: "Dean Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : > : > To: "Braillenote List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : > : > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:10 AM > : > : > Subject: Re: [Braillenote] reading HTML files locally on the BN > : > : > > : > : > > : > : > : > : > : > : Hi Ann, > : > : > : > : > : > : As I said, I'll chat to the developers next week and see if I can > : give > : > : you > : > : > a > : > : > : better explanation as to why this has been done and if/when we can > : > : rectify > : > : > : the situation. I totally understand where you're coming from > : though, > : > be > : > : > : assured of that. > : > : > : > : > : > : Dean. > : > : > : ----- Original Message ----- > : > : > : From: "Ann Parsons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : > : > : To: "Braillenote List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > : > : > : Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 3:31 AM > : > : > : Subject: Re: [Braillenote] reading HTML files locally on the BN > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > : > Hi all, > : > : > : > > : > : > : > Dean, that's confusing as heck because most web pages use the > : > forward > : > : > : > slash, but if that is how you do it...I do think, though, that > : > perhaps > : > : > : > you may want to make the thing consistent throughout the BN. > : Reason > : > : > : > is, that in Windows, e.g. you always use the backslash when > : talking > : > : > : > about files and folders and the forward slash for web pages. > This > : > is > : > : > : > the normal way most people keep things straight. If it's done > : > : > : > differently, when talking about files on the BN, especially when > : all > : > : > : > other menus use the forward slash in their paths this makes life > : > : > : > totally topsy-turvy for users. It makes no sense! > : > : > : > > : > : > : > Ann P. > : > : > : > > : > : > : > -- > : > : > : > Ann K. Parsons > : > : > : > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > : > : > : > WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp > : > : > : > "All that is gold does not glitter. > : > : > : > Not all those who wander are lost." 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