Hi list,
Just my interjection here.
If the file is actually in a brf format, but has a txt extension, all you have 
to do is change the extension.
You just go to the "rename file" prompt, either from the file manager menu or 
if in a list, backspace with r.  (I don't know the qt command)
Then, and again this is for the bt, hit space with dots 4.6 when on the file 
name itself.
The bn will say "blank".
You can then find the txt extension, erase it and replace it with brf.
This is what I have done sometimes when I made a mistake.
If I am misunderstanding the problem, let me know.

Hth

Richard

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: "Van Der Walt Riana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: "Braillenote List" <[email protected]
>Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 10:52:12 +0200
>Subject: RE: [Braillenote] listening to grade 2 files

>Hi Khalid and keao,

>Keao, you mentioned that you have downloaded books from bookshare, but
>you didn't mention in which format those books were.  It may be possible
>that you have downloaded a brf book, but accidentally saved it to your
>unit as a txt file.  In Braille it should then read right, because brf
>is, as far as I know, basically ascii symbols, but the speech will read
>the file as text and pronounce e.g.  the of contraction as some kind of
>perenthesis.

>If this is the problem, it would be best to re-download the relevant
>books from the site, saving them with brf extensions, because if you now
>just translate the file on your unit into Braille, you will translate a
>file which is already actually in brf format into Braille again.  That
>will also result in gibberish.

>Regards
>Riana


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Keao Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 01 August 2004 12:02
>To: Khalid; Braillenote List
>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] listening to grade 2 files

>Hello, I've reasently downloaded books from book share.org.
>I have the same problem.

>Aloha Keao

>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: Khalid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: Laura Wolk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Braillenote List
><[email protected]
>>Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 00:41:26 +0300
>>Subject: Re: [Braillenote] listening to grade 2 files

>>Hi Laura and list,

>>    That's correct when I have a word like "quaint" the brailleNote
>reads it "qua9t" and so on.  I can give you hundreds of examples like
>that.  This how my BN reads these BRF files.

>>As I said before I can read but I can't listen to any books that are in
>BRF format.

>>Thanks and forgive me for bothering the list with this peculiar problem
>which seems to exist in my BN only.

>>Dr.KAAK




>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Laura Wolk
>>  To: Khalid ; Braillenote List
>>  Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 12:13 AM
>>  Subject: Re: [Braillenote] listening to grade 2 files


>>  Hi,
>>  Just for curiosity's sake, when your .brf file is being read
>incorrectly, is
>>  the braille being interpreted as text? for instance, does the word
>"would"
>>  in grade 2 displayed as the letters wd, read as such? is the wourd
>"such"
>>  read as "s star"? i assumed your problem was what Maria described,
>but
>>  you've said that you have the file set to braille, so frankly, i have
>no
>>  idea.  i have also tried to replicate this but cannot.  Laura
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: "Khalid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  To: "Susan Mangis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Braillenote List"
>>  <[email protected]
>>  Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 10:29 AM
>>  Subject: Re: [Braillenote] listening to grade 2 files


>>  Hi Susan, Terri and list,
>>      I'm glad that I have a reply for this E-mail.  till now I can't
>listen to
>>  books if they're in BRF format.
>>  I did the following:
>>  1- "review previous options" I pressed "y"
>>  2- I pressed "t" for text.
>>  3- "extended ASCII character option" I tried the 3 choices ["c" for
>standard
>>  ASCII characters, "i" for ignored and "r" for retained].
>>  4- "extended character set" I tried also the three choices: ["m" for
>ms-dos,
>>  "a" for ANSI and "i" for the international ms-dos].
>>  I used 3 and 4 interchangeably, still no way to let the BrailleNote
>read
>>  them correctly.  What I'm doing wrong?
>>  Is there something messing I should do?

>>  side note: if I went to the file manager and I translated the BRF
>files into
>>  text I can listen to them.  I don't want to go through this tedious
>way.  I
>>  would like to listen to the BRF files directly without translating
>them
>>  specially if the book is in 30 files or more than that.
>>  I hope I'll be able to listen to book soon.
>>  Thanks for any help in advance
>>  Dr.KAAK
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>    From: Susan Mangis
>>    To: Braillenote List
>>    Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 7:22 AM
>>    Subject: Re: [Braillenote] listening to grade 2 files


>>    The problem may be when opening the file you are asked if you want
>to
>>  review
>>    the options.  Type y and see if the file is braille or text.  I've
>had
>>  that
>>    happen when I opened a file and thought it knew it was braille.
>After I
>>    changed the setting it read perfectly.

>>    Sue Mangis
>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>    From: "Terri Pannett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>    To: "BrailleNote discussion list" <[email protected]
>>    Sent: July 30, 2004 6:31 PM
>>    Subject: [Braillenote] listening to grade 2 files


>>> Dear List,

>>> Someone posted a problem with listening to grade 2 files.  Since I
>was
>>  the
>>> one who suggested using speech as an alternative to reading grade 1
>>    braille,
>>> I though I should come up with some sort of answer.

>>> The trouble  is, I can't duplicate the problem.  All of my .brf files
>>  read
>>> very well with speech.  I tried everything I could think of to
>duplicate
>>    the
>>> problem, but I just couldn't do it.

>>> Perhaps someone else has an answer to the person who posted about not
>>    being
>>> able to read .brf files using speech.

>>> Terri Pannett, Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA.  Army MARS call sign
>>  AAT9PX,
>>> California


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