----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Ludenia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Brin-l] Re: Attack Iraq, Alone If We Must


> Robert Seeberger wrote:
>
> > Please note that I offered not a single word of criticism. I didnt
comment
> > on what you said at all.
> >
> > What I did was clarify what I saw in Rays comments.
> >
> > In reading those comments again, I think I could say to Ray that he
could
> > have been a bit more "diplomatic" also.
>
> Are you going to or not? ;-)
>
> Actually, I am a bit sorry for responding in kind to John, but not for the
> sentiments I expressed. I shall try to be nicer in future.
>
> Regards, Ray.
>
General thoughts on the subject at hand:

I am just as guilty as any here of having posted angry words.
But I think the important thing is how one deals with having done so in the
past and how one controls ones self in the moment and in the future.
I think one can exert a great deal of control over a discussion simply by
controlling ones own actions. I think also that holding on to an awareness
of ones deepest motivations and ones feelings "in the moment" are key to
controlling ones own behavior.

When I feel someone is "getting under my skin", I disengage.
I stop and think about why a discussion is making me emotional.
I find that some consideration of my own internalisations and an examination
of my internal dialogues helps me to find a way to respond in a manner that
is non-escalating.
If I am angry, making someone else angry in return will have almost zero
benefit.
I often have to fight an urge to try to "win" an argument. I find that if I
ask questions I can learn why others think and feel the differently than I
do. I try to model their position with myself in their place. I have
sometimes found reason to modify my position through this method.
I also seem to learn a lot more and ignore less.

xponent
I Sometimes Fail Maru
rob


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