----- Original Message ----- From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 9:36 AM Subject: Re: From Mark on rec.arts.books.tolkien
> Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > > > Robert Seeberger wrote: > > > > > >After all the argument on the list about Mark, and he did have his > > >defenders, its pretty sneaky to kick him and not tell anyone. > > > > > IIRC, he was kicked after he send one message with > > pornography, and Eileen told he was being kicked off > > > > But I don't trust in my memory :-) > > There *had* been various calls for issuings of warnings to him, etc. > > I figured it was understood that the listowners were doing what they > ought to be to let him know his behavior was crossing the line, and that > there would be consequences. > > Eileen had come extremely close to just saying, "That's it, I'm killing > it now" in the 2 months leading up to Mark's being kicked off, and if > there had been a public annoucement and then a firestorm directed at the > listowners had come out of *that*, then the plug probably *would* have > been pulled, with Nick not quite ready for a move to his site. > > I'm sorry that people are so bent out of shape about it now. Maybe if > people hadn't been getting so bent out of shape about what the > listowners should and should not do before then, it wouldn't have been > an issue that the listowners felt ought not be publicized. > Thanks for the more detailed explaination Julia. I find it understandable and can accept it even while I dislike that things occured the way they did. I may sound "bent", but I'm not actually. I'm more disappointed than anything. I felt that the onlist discussions actually meant something to the list as a community. The we had made some sort of tentative decisions as a group. That there was no message saying "Mark was kicked" was wrong, though I can see it as a necessary evil due to other events. I am not pointing fingers at anyone. I dont care about blame, its a useless preoccupation. I do care a bit about morality and civilised behaviour. OTOH that decision shows leadership, that a decision would be made even at some cost. How do presidents feel? xponent Unscratchable Itch Maru rob _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
