> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of Matt Grimaldi > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:10 AM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: POLICY PROPOSAL: The list and copyright > > > Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote: > > > > > Lemme guess -- you're American, aren't you? > > Jon Gabriel wrote: > > > > Let me guess, you're displaying more anti-American > > > > attitudes, aren't you? > > Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote: > > > Only if you're a member of that intolerant and self-righteous > > > subset of US citizens who see any and all criticism of the US > > > and her citizens as "anti-Americanism". > > <sigh> > This is not a cute and witty thing to say, Jeroen. >
No, it was trolling. But it allowed me to prove a point so I challenged it anyway. Don't worry, it won't devolve into a flamewar. > > Jon Gabriel wrote: > > **You** are again using a negative stereotype to > > describe Americans. **That** is intolerant and > > arrogantly self-righteous behavior. > > He said "subset of US Citizens", Jon, probably in an > attempt to avoid turning it into a stereotype for > all Americans. Are you trying to say that no group > of people who fit that description exists? I'd be > quick to disagree with you if you are. His original comment did not focus on a subset of Americans. If it had, he would have said something along the lines of "Let me guess, you're a member of that group of Americans who think they should sue everything....." A subset exists. I don't deny that. Some Americans are fat too. It would also be offensive if Jeroen walked up to an obese person and said "You're huge! You *must* be an American." > Regardless, you're taking offense too quickly, > which is much too easy to do in an email forum. Perhaps. It's true that he does have the ability to offend me quickly. It IS interesting that on a list with over 100 active posters from a variety of backgrounds and political POV's that he is the only one who does so, isn't it? I and other people have noted publicly that this is a behavioral pattern. I refuted Jeroen's oft-made objection that he routinely criticizes American policy and not the American people, but is then unfairly accused of being anti-American. Since I've made my point, I doubt I'll need to post further on the subject. Jon _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
