From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 07:33:28PM -0600, Michael Harney wrote: > > > For an atheist to say "There is no god, and people who believe in any > > god or gods are just deluding themselves". Requires faith. This > > statement, while > > On the other hand, a slight change in your statement to: > > There is no evidence for god, and people who believe in any god or > gods (without evidence) are just deluding themselves. > > does not require faith. > Wrong, that's faith based as well. The problem with that wording is that there *is* evidence of a god. Documentation and reports of apparitions, stigmata, healing of "uncurable" conditions through prayer, other miracles, personal revelations, etc. How *credible* the evidence is is a value jugdement. Someone saying their is no evidence of a god is is making a faith based declaration saying that the evidence is invalid or fabricated without prooving it invalid or fabricated. Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much... the wheel, New York, wars, and so on, whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely the dolphins believed themselves to be more intelligent than man for precisely the same reasons." - Douglas Adams _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
