--- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jan Coffey wrote:
> 
> > A society where everyone was carrying a weapon would be a society where
> the
> > week and the meek would have equal power when they walk out of their
> front
> > door. It would be More peacefull and provide for More equality.
> 
> <rolls eyes>  Yea, like the gangs in our cities that all have guns. 
>     They're oh so equal in the cemetery.  Sorry, but the above is a 
> tired cliché that doesn't stand up to any scrutiny.

Then why do Texas and Nevada have less violent crime?

Where is all the major gang activity? In states that have very strong gun
laws.

Besides you are making my point. How long do you think it is going to be
before those same gangsters realize that YOUR nigborhood where most people
don't own guns is a lot easier to pilage than the "hood" down the street
where they know their rival gang is packing.

> > 
> > I beleive that for a weaponless society to work, we must first experience
> > have tactical equality.
> 
> Your formula assumes that everyone that is week and meek wants a 
> gun.  Are you going to force people to carry guns so that they are 
> "equal"?  Then there is the matter of temperament. many of the gun 
> deaths in this country occur when normally law abiding citizens 
> loose it and start shooting.  

I don't believe that. 

> Then there is the matter of accidents. 

Simple solution, teach a class in gun safty in school. Replace the 10th 11th
or 12th year of "english" those clases are a waste.

>   Your formula assumes that all gun owners will be responsible, 
> keeping their weapons out of the hands of minors and taking 
> appropriate safety measures.

Yes, I believe that law abiding citizens are responsible, well meaning, do
not contribute to the delinquincy of minors, and are interested in safty.

Much more so than I trust a society and the mercy of thugs, who no matter
what you do, are allways going to have guns.
 
 
> All that being said, there are too much a cult of arms in this 
> country to make firearms illegal.  Though the courts have ruled that 
> the second amendment does not allow unlimited access to firearms 
> people continue to believe that deadly force is their right.  

Some people do not believe in the softening of the rights our forfathers
invisoned.

> So be 
> it.  What we need to do is to encourage responsibility with the law. 
>   Weapons should be registered.  

Done

> Owners should be trained. 

Done

> Penalties for abuse should be persuasive.  

Done

> And the laws should be 
> homogenous so that individuals can't skirt them by driving a few 
> miles.

Agreed, let's use Nevada's laws everywhere.

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               Jan William Coffey
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