From: Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Mercies of The Vatican
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 17:57:22 -0700

On Aug 26, 2004, at 1:07 PM, Travis Edmunds wrote:


From: Warren Ockrassa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gene space arguments are fine if you're discussing creatures with no clear sense of self-awareness or consequences for actions, such as bacteria or tobacco company attorneys. Once you install a sense of "I", things change.

Keep in mind, that a sense of "I" is limited entirely to the "I".

No; it actually predicts "you" -- by distinguishing oneself from others, others must logically spring into existence.
That is, I don't think you can have an "I" in a vacuum. This means that the presence of self-awareness, being almost by definition other-awareness as well, changes how an I-conscious being behaves.

That's all fine & dandy, but it still comes down to a particular 'I-conscious' being, making individual decisions. For we all are individuals and cannot be lumped together in this particular context because of that.


-Travis

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