On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 19:23:03 -0500, Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Gary Denton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> > Of course, the current GOP appointed trustees have slanted this last
> > report to make the situation more dire.  If you go back to the last
> > report in 1997 the optimist case had the economy growing atr 2.2% a
> > year.  The new optimistic scenario is a growth of 1.7%.  If you plug
> > the 2.2% number back in under the SS numbers there is no deficit.
> > Could these numbers have been chosen for political reasons?  Did they
> > not want any case shown where there is not a shortfall?
> 
> Rather than making silly partisan insinuations, and rapidly quoting
> sound-bites without studying and thinking about them, it is useful to
> actually look at facts and numbers.
> 
> Since 1789, real GDP per capita in the US has grown at an average
> annualized rate of 1.64%, with a standard deviation of 5.02%. For a
> seventy five year period, the standard deviation is reduced by the
> square root of 75, which comes out to be 0.58%. Source data for GDP is
> at:
> 
>   http://www.eh.net/hmit/gdp/
> 
> The SS Trustees assume for their intermediate productivity growth number
> 1.6%, exactly equal to the longer term growth in GDP per capita for
> the longest time series available. And for their high and low cost
> scenarios, they add and subtract half of the 75 year standard deviation,
> so that is 1.6% +/- 0.29% = 1.3% and 1.9% The SS projection assumptions
> are at:
> 
>   http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/TR/TR04/II_assump.html#wp94905
> 
> It is hard to imagine anyone familiar with economic statistics calling
> their assumed productivity growth numbers unjustified or unreasonable.

It is hard to imigine someone going back ovfer 200 years to get their
economic growth projection and then narrowing to half of a standard
deviation.

http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/TR/TR04/V_economic.html#wp159107
High Cost 1.3% Intermediate Cost 1.6% Low Cost 1.9%

1997 report:
High Cost .3% Intermediate Cost 1.3% Low Cost 2.2%

Some discussion and links to trust fund reports here:
http://bruceweb.blogspot.com/2004/11/trust-fund-ratios-under-three.html

"The 1996 Report shows it running dry in 2030 under the Intermediate
Cost alternative, the 2004 Report sometime in 2041.

"There is a word for a problem that improves itself eleven years over
a nine year period after being neglected. That word is not "Crisis"."

Gary Denton
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