Dan wrote:

I realize that a president neither you nor I voted for is in office. But, I believe in standards that are superior to "Dan likes" or "Doug likes."
Besides Bush's actions are not your druthers, what basis can you use to say we've gone backwards over the last four years.

I'm way to tired to do your post justice, but let me just say that I think that Bush has jepordized the very foundation of our nation; our meme. People the world over wanted to come here or barring that they wanted to emulate us and I feel that that has changed completely.


I have a hard time reconciling this with your
posts that indicate that you do not feel that faith is needed for ethics.

You're wrong that I don't have faith. My faith is in humanity, not in the imaginary.


Oh, and if you looked at the individual data points would evolution go directly from good to better to best?

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Doug
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