On 5/19/05, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> At 10:30 AM 5/18/2005 -0500, Gary Denton wrote:
> >
> >I think that is a misreading of Roe v. Wade. Based on evidence
> >available at the time the Supreme Court ruled for no state involvement
> >in the first trimester, state regulation in the second, and only to
> >save the life of the mother in the third. You can argue about where
> >the lines are drawn but one side in the debate doesn't want any lines.
> 
> and also wrote:
> and>
> >I disagree here. I think that would be illegal under Roe v. Wade which
> >is more sophisticated than you think.
> 
> 
> You are again playing fast and loose with the facts by only referring to
> Roe vs. Wade, and neglecting Doe vs. Bolton, Casey vs. PP of PA, and
> Stenberg vs. Carhart.


I briefly referred to Casey. 

The pro-choice side, I have amply demonstrated, doesn't want any lines
> drawn - as we still have not had anyone able to take my challenge of
> identifying a *single* restriction on abortion supported by that side.
> 
> >Am I defining abortion as murder? Killing viable infants unless a
> >finding has been made that the women's life is endangered is murder,
> >it is not abortion.
> 
> You said, life and not health. So, you agree that Stenberg vs. Carhart
> legalized murder in the United States?


This hasn't come up before and I am not yet sufficiently versed in it to 
decide.


>You are wrong and this is another false argument. The decision could
> >not be made on the mental health of the mother but actual endangerment
> >of the mother. It would also have to be an affirmative decision that
> >the baby is endangering her life and it has come down to one or
> >another.
> 
> Not true. Stenberg vs. Carhart requires an exception for *health*, not
> *life*, including mental health.


Again I would have to see if this true. I have learned not to go by just 
your interpretation.

That may win points on a debate team but not with me. There is a reference 
to Heinlein in here.

-- 
Gary Denton
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