On 5/19/05, JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 10:30 AM 5/18/2005 -0500, Gary Denton wrote: > > > >I think that is a misreading of Roe v. Wade. Based on evidence > >available at the time the Supreme Court ruled for no state involvement > >in the first trimester, state regulation in the second, and only to > >save the life of the mother in the third. You can argue about where > >the lines are drawn but one side in the debate doesn't want any lines. > > and also wrote: > and> > >I disagree here. I think that would be illegal under Roe v. Wade which > >is more sophisticated than you think. > > > You are again playing fast and loose with the facts by only referring to > Roe vs. Wade, and neglecting Doe vs. Bolton, Casey vs. PP of PA, and > Stenberg vs. Carhart.
I briefly referred to Casey. The pro-choice side, I have amply demonstrated, doesn't want any lines > drawn - as we still have not had anyone able to take my challenge of > identifying a *single* restriction on abortion supported by that side. > > >Am I defining abortion as murder? Killing viable infants unless a > >finding has been made that the women's life is endangered is murder, > >it is not abortion. > > You said, life and not health. So, you agree that Stenberg vs. Carhart > legalized murder in the United States? This hasn't come up before and I am not yet sufficiently versed in it to decide. >You are wrong and this is another false argument. The decision could > >not be made on the mental health of the mother but actual endangerment > >of the mother. It would also have to be an affirmative decision that > >the baby is endangering her life and it has come down to one or > >another. > > Not true. Stenberg vs. Carhart requires an exception for *health*, not > *life*, including mental health. Again I would have to see if this true. I have learned not to go by just your interpretation. That may win points on a debate team but not with me. There is a reference to Heinlein in here. -- Gary Denton Easter Lemming Blogs http://elemming.blogspot.com http://elemming2.blogspot.com _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l