Matthew and Julie Bos wrote:
> On 10/1/05 8:18 PM, "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> If $9/hr isn¹t going to attract skilled labor, isn't the absence of
>> a low limit going to keep them away in droves?
>
> You may have to pay people more than the prevailing wage to get down
> there. DBA sets the wage in a locality.  I just think it's weird 
> that
> everybody thinks the wages will immediately plummet to $5.15.  The
> market price has yet to be set.  If restrictions in supply caused
> prices to go down, we wouldn't be paying $3 dollars a gallon now
> wouldn't we?

I know what you are saying. Electricians in NO make $22.09 /hr. This 
is comparable with Houston and is a fair wage for skilled electrical 
work in the commecial enviroment here in a Southern city. Compare that 
with the $40.00/hr electricians get in parts of California. (Can you 
say real estate crash......I thought you could!)

The fear is that some contractors will try for $9/hr, (and some guys 
with a pair of kliens and a screwdriver will hire on), and *get* 
contracts. There is fear because *these* guys will get *real* 
electricians killed later on........if the place doesn't burn down 
first.
(You have to take my word on how excrebly bad some of the electrical 
work I have seen is. The scumbucket class of contractors will try to 
get by without permits or inspection of any kind and that is a recipe 
for disaster.)


>
>> If contractors can get really cheap labor, by what mechanism do 
>> they
>> pass those savings on to the government?
>
> The government "saves" money by accepting the lowest bid.  The
> contractor "saves" money by not getting the best people to do the
> work done right the first time.  I have never "saved" money by using
> a cheap bid.  That¹s why I usually get five bids so I can throw a
> couple out.  I "save" money by getting my stuff done on time, and on
> budget.  Most of the time by union labor might I add.

Good for you. Really! That is the responsible way to accept bids!

>
>> What the f**k is so great about Halliburton?  Every time I turn
>> around they're being charged with ripping us off.
>
> Nothing really.  They just have big toys and get to do big things
> that I have a hard time contemplating.  Sometimes they make a lot of
> money and sometimes they lose it.  They are the governmental 
> contract
> equivalent of Wal-Mart.  Nobody likes them either.
>

You and I seem to be on converging paths here.<G>


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Not Just Wages Maru
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