Dave Land <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote I know that other 9/11 analyses have been posted to this list, but I came across a one-hour documentary that concludes that "it is more likely than not that the government was actually behind the attacks" ...
Yes, that is worth checking. As I say below ` ... the simplest hypothesis is that a Moslem group did the job ...' The reason it is worth checking was stated by a friend of mine: The isolation of the cells that undertook the hijacking and attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon meant that the people in those groups could have been directed by someone who is not Moslem. The hijackers could have been fooled as to who their sponsors were. (The friend is a former paratrooper who tried to enter the burning Trade Center buildings because he had training in helping burn victims. He was prevented by a cop -- which saved his life.) Before Al Qaeda claimed responsibility, back on 23 September 2001, less than two weeks after the attacks, as a result of my friend's comments, I wrote to myself To find out who sponsored the attacks, one can use Lenin's method and ask `who benefits?' from these attacks. * Clearly, the fundamentalist, anti-US Moslems do. This fits with the usual theory, that Bin Laden, or someone else of that ilk, is behind the attacks. * US `patriot' groups -- `militias'. These groups are against the US military, for being on the side of the UN, against financiers, especially Jewish financiers working in the World Trade Center, and Arabs. This attack was against all of them. Against this possibility is the argument that the effort required too much money and sophistication for the US groups to handle; and it will likely lead to fewer US civil liberties. * US military or intelligence The attacks will lead to a sharp increase in funding and power for the CIA or other such groups. However, are there any organizations in the US government who have successfully infiltrated those group who could have done the job? And would it have been possible for a large enough number of people in a conspiracy inside the US government to have carried off the attack without someone telling others of the plan? I doubt it. * Israel It is widely believed that the Mossad has the capability necessary to sponsor the attack. It is thought that they have infiltrated various terrorist groups. The purpose of the attack would be to change US opinion so that the Israeli government would gain more support against Palistinians and would continue to receive support if the Israeli military were to undertake a major operation to occupy all of `Greater Israel', perhaps even driving Palistinians out of those territories. The makings of the plan could have been set in motion years ago. The argument against this possibility is that the success of the operation may be to encourage more attacks against the US, and that the US might retreat into isolation. Or if the US does not retreat, the US might reduce support for Israel and transfer its support to Arab countries helping the US; as a reward for helping the US, the Arab countries might ask the US to push Israel towards more of an accomodation with the Palistinians. * Russia Many think the bombs in Moscow that killed many people and enabled the Russian government to rekindle its attacks against Chechnya were `black' operations. This would be similar. The purpose would be to gain use help in the war against Chechnya and against Islamic insurgents in the central Asian countries. The argument against this possibility is that the US might not only overthrow the Taliban in Afghanistan but start building roads and pipelines to carry oil and gas out of central Asia to ports in Pakistan. The project would provide jobs to Afghanis and Pakistanis so they are less likely to go to Taliban schools. Also, it would provide easier access for ground troops not only to Afghanistan but to the central Asian countries. Also, the US will increase its military spending and power, which diminishes that of Russia. Now, none of these items discuss the Bush Administration directly. But to succeed, the Bush Administration would have had to conspire. I continue to doubt they would have been able to carry `off the attack without someone telling others of the plan'. On 30 October 2001, I added China and Iran to the equation, and introduced a different argument for Russia: Another thought: if China, Iran, and Russia can prevent the US from building a pipeline through Afghanistan, the Russians might figure that they might benefit from having the US as an ally against both the Islamic insurgents and, ultimately, China; plus receive loan, credits, and the rest. * China China is fighting a war against Islamic insurgents in the northwest and against Tibetans in Tibet. The benefit to China is that the attacks and response the US to ally itself with China, distracts the US from Taiwan, and drains the US of treasure. The first argument against this possibility is the same as for Russia: that in the process of responding, the US might increase its influence in central Asia by providing a route for fuel that does not go through China, Russia, or Iran, and by providing a pathway for US armies into central Asia. The second argument against this possibility is that the US may force its definition of `terrorist' on China. The US definition would, presumably, include the insurgents in the Chinese northwest; but not the Tibetans. The third argument is also the same as for Russia: that the US will increase its military spending and power, which reduces that of China. All told, the simplest hypothesis is that a Moslem group did the job, although it is not clear whether Bin Laden's organization was responsible ... This reasoning still makes sense. Nowadays, I would add that the Bush Administration seized the opportunity to go for their goals. As John Horn said ... I have looked a several websites that ... all seem to hinge on the same thing: comments made under stress at the time of the attacks. ... As he and Julia pointed out such comments provide weak evidence. Richard Baker asked Don't you think that if Bush and co had been behind it, their reaction would have been less slow, confused and downright incompetent? It is worth remembering that Bush and his supporters were competent in getting elected. Their `Plan B' succeeded -- they gained power in a manner that involves a perceived dependency on judges, voting machine owners, and election officials, by some people. (Clearly, they would have preferred a presumed `Plan A', which was to win without being perceived by anyone as depending on judges, voting machine owners, and election officials.) Indeed, not only did Bush become president in 2000, he regained power in 2004. Competence in one area does not necessarily shift over to another. Or perhaps competence does shift but those currently in power in the US have different goals? Suppose the Bush and his supporters do have their own goals? After all, what I infer to be the various `Plans B' of Bush and his supporters have succeeded: * Afghanistan has become a country with US bases and poppies whose opium is converted to heroin that is sold to administration enemies. * As a result of US actions in Iraq, Bush Administration supporters have seen an increase in the value of their assets, such as tar sands, oil shales, and coal in North America and oil in Saudi Arabia. * In the US itself, the debate over the long-term future of Social Security served as a distraction from debate over larger and immediate government deficits. In Afghanistan, I think that `Plan A' consisted of hope for a pipeline. But as far as I can see, no political grouping can expect all its preferences to succeed. A fall back is needed. In the US, it seems to me particularly difficult for a feudalist group to gain and keep power. Thus, I do not think Bush and his supporters could have kept secret a conspiracy to attack the World Trade Center and targets in Washington, DC. (The prime target may have been the Capitol or the White House. I have heard that the Pentagon was secondary. The man flying the airplane might have found he could not see a prime target against the sun well enough to be sure that he, an inexperienced and nervous pilot, could hit one or the other. Indeed, even when flying from the south towards the Pentagon, the pilot clipped a tree. He flew a very shallow attack.) While I do not think Bush and his supporters could have kept secret a big conspiracy, I do think they did operate a competent, but mostly non-secret campaign to gain power. (I also think they kept a few actions secret, at least for a time. For example, if I remember rightly, the head of the Republican campaign in New Hampshire was recently convicted a results-changing telephone call operation.) But large secret operations were not the main action. After all, Rove and others have said what they did. To think that big secrets were the main action is to be distracted. -- Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG Key ID: 004B4AC8 http://www.rattlesnake.com http://www.teak.cc _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l