I'm still on the waiting list for this book, but
doggonit, I'm going to jump in anyway (after all, not
having read the book hasn't stopped me from joining
the discussions at my book club!).

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Jim wrote: 
>  
> > I have a bit of a problem with this idea that
> environmentalism and 
> > economics are mortal enemies. There has to be some
> middle ground. 
>  
> In fact, in the long run, environmentalism makes
> good business sense. The problem is that so many
> businesses in this country don't take the long run
> into account - next week, next month, maybe next
> year, but five years from now? WTF cares. 
>  
> And yet Diamond has written about oil or gas
> exploration in his beloved New Guinea (either in
> Collapse or an Op Ed piece can't remember) about one
> of the companies being very cognizant of
> environmental issues (had to do with how they built
> the roads to and from the mining sites I think
> amoung other things). He contrasted this to another
> company with more traditional approach; the
> environmentally aware company did better - sorry
> that I can't remember the details. The  conclusion
> was that environmentally sensitive actions were not
> more expensive. One way use the market to insure
> environmental protection is to insure that the costs
> of doing business include the environmental costs
> (e.g how much will cost to clean up a site after it
> is mined out). We have a better handle on this now.
> If the true cots are figured in a corporation will
> have to make a market driven choice as to how much
> it is worth to do something to the environment since
> it will have to pay those costs. 

Similarly, people are frequently willing to pay more
for organic or 'fair trade' products, such as milk or
coffee/tea.  When educated about benefits to the
environment or local populace, folks often choose to
support those goals; of course, one has to have the
income to back up one's desires.

Debbi
who had a boyfriend from Missoula, at one point, and
has hiked in the Bitterroots

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