----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jon louis mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <brin-l@mccmedia.com>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 4:08 PM
Subject: Flatulence


>> Does "bushco sycophants" sound like wording which considers all
>> viewpoints?
>> -- Ronn!  :)
>
> i guess not, when you put it that way,

One of the hard learned lessons learned by longtime listmembers here 
is that it does more harm than good to use any kind of language that 
is politically inflammatory. One has to consider that there are people 
here who <GASP> actually voted for Bush in one or more elections and 
feel like they had good reason to do so.
One thing that one could do that would certainly rile our list 
conservatives and some of our centrists is to state an opinion in such 
a way as to make it appear that you assume everyone here is in total 
agreement with your own political views.

In an earlier post today you said:
" i don't know anything about the regulars here, but i
assume most are admirers of the brin perspective "

Let me assure you that such is not the case. We all like Dr Dave and 
are fans of his fiction (and to a lesser degree his non-fiction), but 
we have known the good Doctor in both the best and worst of times. We 
have seen his strengths and his flaws. We have enough common history 
that he is more or less one of the listmembers albeit the primary 
member in many ways. Even though he is not part of the daily life of 
the list, he is the reason most of us came here in the first place.

>but i am interested in your
> viewpoint, and i have made an effort to understand why bush and 
> company
> are so adament in their denial that humans play a significant role 
> in
> causing global warming.  the only rational i can come up with is 
> that
> they don't believe humans have a signicant impact on the ecology, 
> and
> that to implement drastic interventions to slow down the progress 
> would
> be too destructive to the economy.  i believe that this is starting 
> to
> change, partly due to al gore's efforts, and partly because there is 
> a
> profit to be made in alternative sources of energy.
>

It seems to me that Bush and Co are a business oriented group and 
strongly wish to *not* believe Global Warming has a human caused 
component. For them, this would be the cause af a dismal future for 
commerce and for our nation and the world. There are a lot of people 
out there who basically believe the world to be more or less static 
and/or cannot comprehend much less believe in the chain of 
logic/causality that is required for a belief in human caused global 
warming.
If there is anything to be argued about, it is that some are trying to 
turn a scientific debate into a political debate as if human caused 
global warming could be voted away or voted into existence.

xponent
A Speck I Am Maru
rob 


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