> >> I'm done with this conversation since
> >> you ducked my question about what
> >> should replace government regulation.

> > our resident troll does that a lot. i
>  suspect he is an ayn rand, libertarian
> > wannabe, or he just likes to agitate.  
> one would think that the current
> > collapse would wake this guy up.

> It depends on what they think is the 
> cause of the current collapse. If you're
> crazy enough, I am pretty sure you can 
> blame it on what little regulation remained
> getting in the way of good, honest business  
> people trying to do good, honest business.

> I'm so tired of that old song. They've been 
> singing it since FDR, and it's still not true,
> although they've sung it so long and so loud 
> that it has actually bent many millions of 
>  minds into thinking that it is common sense.
> It never was, it is not now, it never will be.
> Dave

i still don't understand how regulation is to  blame; i would sure like to hear 
some examples from someone...   

i'm not saying de-regulation is the only cause of the current crisis.  there 
are many other factors.  the iraq war had a lot to do with it, which made a lot 
of money for arms dealers, war contractors, etc.   bush's cronys and other 
opportunists also did well with the real estate and other bubbles.  now they 
will all be buying and selling their ill gotten capital and bailout subsidies 
to make even more during the continuing wild market fluctuations.   

Just like the crash of '29 cured many of the excesses from selling on margin, a 
way was found around such regulations, thanks again to the bush administration 
and his chainsaw surrogates.  i wonder how long the lessons being learned from 
current excesses will prevent greed in the future?  a way will be found...  

we have a deficit economy; it served a purpose at one time, but it is way out 
of control.  pouring taxpayer liens in at the top of the financial system is 
not the answer.  people are out of work.  now people are beginning to start to 
live within their  means.  

now is a good time to play the market corrections if you have disposable cash, 
or can get some of that bailout money....  now is the time for a "new" new deal 
to deal with america's. infrastructure projects.

now that the rest of the world is feeling the domino effect of globalization, 
it is time to turn away from unrestrained growth.  the developing nations 
should see where it leads and start producing for themselves, instead of 
sending the fruit of their workers' labors to us.  maybe they will see how the 
bankers, brokers, agents, arms dealers and other contract pimps are ripping off 
the disenfranchised.  

we need a new, green socialism model that conserves the earth's resources, 
recycles industrial waste, reuses, rebuilds and extends the longevity of 
technology rather than designing products to wear out in three years or less, 
so they can be trashed for the next version.  

if governments are going to indulge in deficit spending then do it creating 
jobs in cleaning up the planet, health care, education and other creative, 
rather than destructive enterprises...
jon




      
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