On Sat, 10 Jan 2009, David Hobby wrote:

> Back to what I was saying about Wikipedia, the
> article there at
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_number
> starts like this:
>
>> In mathematics, a natural number (also called counting number) can
>> mean either an element of the set {1, 2, 3, ...} (the positive
>> integers) or an element of the set {0, 1, 2, 3, ...} (the
>> non-negative integers). The latter is especially preferred in
>> mathematical logic, set theory, and computer science.
>
> I often teach upper division college Math courses that
> are just at the cusp between the two definitions, and
> make a point of stating the definition of the natural
> numbers.  (Whatever it says in the text, of course!)
>
>                               ---David
>
> Positive integers, Maru

Positive, or nonnegative?  That is the question....

        Julia

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