> 1. Re: Politeness > (=?utf-8?b?V2FycmVuIEFkYW1zLU9ja3Jhc3Nh?=) > 2. Politeness (Jon Louis Mann) > 3. RE: Politeness (Dan Minette) > 4. Re: Politeness (John Williams) > 5. Re: Politeness (John Williams) > 6. Re: Politeness (John Williams) > 7. Re: Politeness (Nick Arnett) > 8. Re: Politeness > (=?utf-8?b?V2FycmVuIEFkYW1zLU9ja3Jhc3Nh?=)
> From: <war...@nightwares.com> > Having been watching from the sidelines, > it's amazing how easy it is > for me to decide whose voice is > respectable and mature, and whose is > childish and petulant, in this discussion. > > From: John Williams <jwilliams4...@gmail.com> > > >? It's not like he's some genius who doesn't > suffer fools; that I would respect. > > It is not like you are a successful politician. Why > would anyone care about having your respect? > > I actually think this is a statement made in good > > faith. IMHO, you would grow if you were able to > > understand the answer to that question. While self > > respect is critical, and one shouldn't put up a > > false front to get respect, earning the respect of > > those who have achieved less than you can be very > > beneficial.? The reason why will be left as an > >exercise for the student. :-) > > Dan M. > >> I actually think > >I'm not so sure about that. > (John Williams) > Allow me to retort to John William's rude retorts (if that > really is his name). He assumes that I am not a successful > politician because I have not won an election. In his > ignorance and lack of understanding of how politics work, is > the fact that I refuse to sell out. It would defeat > the purpose of why I run for office. I don't just > talk, I do the walk. I have succeeded in > setting the agenda for a number of issues using some of the > strategies in "Earth". In the last election there were > 15 candidates for 4 positions on the council. The > incumbents and those who make promises to gain the support > of special interests always win. The 4 behind who also > had special interests but not the local machine, spent at > least $50,000. I came in a few hundred votes behind > them and ahead of all the remaining candidates. Not > bad, when my only endorsement was the Green party... > I'm Jonathan Mann and I approve this message!~) > From: "Dan Minette" <danmine...@att.net> > I would like to clarify one thing that I said and to comment > on something Jonathan Mann said. > > While self respect is critical, and one shouldn't put > up a false front > > to get respect, earning the respect of those who have > achieved less > > than you can be very beneficial. > While I didn't want to complicate my reply at the time, I do > want to take > this opportunity to say that in no way was I referring to > how much Jon > achieved or hasn't achieved. I was referring to John > Williams attitude. The > only reason I would want to judge Jon's success would be if > it were germain > to the discussion (e.g. I'd be more inclined to believe on > of the Manning > brothers when they talk football than a guy who plays touch > football once a year. > >...is the fact that I refuse to sell out. It would > defeat the purpose of > why I run for office. I > >don't just talk, I do the walk. > This raises an interesting question. Lincoln did > things like appoint > incompetent generals knowingly, because they were supported > by a political > faction he needed to keep the Union going. Is doing > things like arresting > the Maryland legislature on the way to vote for secession to > keep the Union > together wrong? In other words, if one holds onto > principals without > compromise, one rarely changes how things are. Those > folks who we look back > at and see as being vital to the US did make those > compromises. I don't > think that was selling out, it was having a sense of balance > and priorities. > Dan M. > From: John Williams <jwilliams4...@gmail.com> > > While I didn't want to complicate my reply at the time, > I do want to take > > this opportunity to say that in no way was I referring > to how much Jon > > achieved or hasn't achieved. > Hilarious! > > Having been watching from the sidelines, it's amazing > how easy it is for me > > to decide whose voice is respectable and mature, and > whose is childish and petulant, in this discussion. > If only it were also easy for you to post something of > value, instead of your opinion which is worthless. > From: John Williams <jwilliams4...@gmail.com> > Jon Louis Mann <net_democr...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > He assumes that I am not a successful politician > because I have not won an election. > Actually, no, that is not why I assume you are not > successful. > From: Nick Arnett <nick.arn...@gmail.com> > I read this as a personal attack, which is not permitted in > this group. > Nick > oh, you're so precious when you squinch up your wittwe > itty-bitty face > and make your wittwe itty-bitty fists! I could num you right > up! > I could just eat you all up from your cute wittwe toes to your > cute wittwe nose! Yes I could! Yes I could! Num num num num! > But you're being a naughty-naughty, trying to take it > off-list, little honey boo-boo. No no no. > > > Aww, aren't you adorable? Here, honey, here's a > wowwipop. > > Aww, aren't you good at passive aggressive insults? > Here, suck on this. > Warren Adams-Ockrassa JW, you really need to crawl out of your Mommy's basement and find something more rewarding to do that trying to lower others to your level of purile provocation and personal attack. By posting "Actually, no, that is not why I assume you are not successful" you're clearly evading responding to my questioning your comment why you assume I am not successful by phishing to get me to respond to your sarcasm, so you can deliver another cheap shot. That is exactly what trolls do when they can't refute an argument or retort. If you're not mature enough to participate in a rational dialog you should say nothing, or leave. Why are you on this site, anyway. you don't seem like a fan of David Brin? As for making compromises to get elected it wouldn't make a difference in this case. That is what Obama does, and he is much better than the alternative. In this case, no one would believe I would change my spots, plus they would not support me anyway because they already have too many candidates who would sell out for real. There is no way I will EVER agree to revolving door conflict of interest cronyism, backscratching patronage, politics! My goals include getting the SMO airport closed, getting free WiFi with a link to a Virtual Town Hall on the city website, etc. I have made substantial progress in that direction. Sometimes the best way to win is to lose. That is what Japan did... Jon Mann _______________________________________________ http://box535.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
