On Jul 1, 2004, at 3:40 PM, The Fool wrote:
Which is a way of putting desk accessory gadgets on the desktop using
JavaScript.
That's all I need to know. If it uses JavaSh!t, then it's complete garbage.
Upon what *specific* technical characteristics of JavaScript are you making this judgment?
All of them.
Permission to treat as a hostile witness?
That is no answer. This makes me believe that you have no idea what you are
talking about. Maybe you read some L337 HAX0R5 talking shit on Slashdot and
now you're parroting them. The use of the exclamation point gave you away.
If you have specific, founded, technical criticisms, bring 'em on.
Frankly, I doubt very much that you do.
Granted, the browser wars resulted in some bad and inconsistent *implementations* of JavaScript, but what is your beef with the language itself?
It is one the most evil, vile, disgusting things ever created, in nearly
the same class as the ultimate pure distilled evil country music.
Perhaps you'd like to compare JavaScript to the Nazis? That one's always good for a laugh.
Again, all puffery, no substance. You have no idea what you are talking about, do you? Or perhaps you do, but you can't say any more without revealing your super-secret identity? If you work for Microsoft or something, and *have* to hate JavaScript, then cop to it.
Knowing nothing about your technical qualifications, allow me to ask if
you even clear about the difference between Java and JavaScript, and
are you criticizing it because you *think* it is written in Java? And
if so, what's your beef with Java?
Java is garbage. JavaSh!t is a more pure form of distilled evil.
Excuse me, but you have some spittle on your chin.
If you have a real technical gripe with Java or JavaScript, I'd be interested to hear it, but (a) I don't think you do, and (b) I don't think anyone else would be interested.
So what is it? Is it the object model? The way that Garbage Collection is implemented? The fact that Java is strongly typed? The fact there's no pointer math or buffer overruns to exploit? Is it the fact that it doesn't lock people in to a single-vendor solution?
Or would you rather say that it smells like a big poopie, which is more like the level of criticism you've leveled so far.
Had it been implemented in Python, Perl, or some other cross-platform scripting language, would your analysis have been any different? Would you have preferred a platform-locked language such as Visual Basic or AppleScript?
I will not use JavaSh!t, period. Ever. Nick knows muchly about the origins of the vileness.
Again, no real answer, just more juvenile sputum.
With all due respect to my co-worker, Nick, who can code rings around me
in Python and has probably forgotten more about computational linguistics
than I'll ever know, I probably know more about JavaScript than Nick does.
And, as the publisher of java.sun.com for about four years, so I know a
thing or two about it, too.
If you know *anything* about this topic, let's continue the discussion, but
I am not sure that anyone else on the list gives a rat's ass about this.
If you don't, then continue your diatribe on politics, about which you
are at least occasionally amusing.
Dave
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