That is the thing we have been trying. Every year we start out with some 30
women and then they dissapear. I guess I must scare them off. ;) It is
something that for the last 3 years I have been trying to find out how to
deal with. You women out there what would keep women coming to practices
which are dominated by over enthusiastic beginner lads? That will be the
key to this issue in my opinion.

Jes





Deffley Leanne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 31/10/2001 15:09:39

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Subject:  RE: women


Do you think that by HAVING to play women (2-5/1-6/whatever) in student
ultimate that would FORCE teams to have to encourage women to play, women
would have a more definite role to play in the team and as they had that
status, they would themselves have more motivation to remain in the game?

Just a thought
Leanne

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Subject: re: women



Becca,

I think it could be an interesting idea but unfortunately making students
co-ed is not possible. Most uni clubs just simply do not have enough women.
Last year we had about 7 women in the club. Some more dedicated than others
and even that wouldn't ensure they could make it to the tourneys. That was
a good year for us. The other years I have played we have not had that many
women and that would be even worse.

My point is if you make student nationals 2-5 split then a lot of teams
would be unable to enter. Sorry but there aren't enough women in student
ultimate for it. I would encourage women to play and have tried. We did
have a woman on our student team last year and she played as much as any of
us and still came 2nd so keep them coming...

Jesper






"Rebecca Humphries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@warwick.ac.uk on
31/10/2001 14:04:29

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Subject:  re: women




Want some more opinion - I doubt it!!

Just a thought, but can't student regionals/nationals etc be a 2-5 split.
You don't need to organise a whole new student competition, just change the
gender criteria (it's not strictly co-ed so you don't even have to call it
that).

It's bloody tough being a woman in student frisbee. When I left uni no one
wanted us to play in their teams, so a group of chicks organised their own
team - Funky Nuns/Women in Black - and spent a year and a half losing every
game we played!!

Attitudes towards women players has to change at the roots - women will
practise, practise, practise if they think it's worth their while.





>From: Nicole Roberts
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: re: women
>Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:34:01 +0000 (GMT)
>
>Personally, if that's the way that leeds play then I
>feel very sorry for Anna.
>
>If you look at the top four teams in student nationals
>last year, 3 of them had a woman playing for them. I
>appreciate that one out of fifteen isn't much, but
>it's a start.
>
>A student co-ed tournament is, in my opinion, an
>excellent idea, however it's ran (a 5-2 ratio may be
>necessary).
>
>By effectively forcing women on the pitch by playing
>co-ed can only improve the playing standard of student
>women's ultimate, as if any team actually wants to do
>reasonably well then they'll have to use all seven
>players, not just players without breasts...
>
>Anyroad, this is probably a bit of a pointless mail
>unless we have some university that's willing to host
>co-ed nationals, and a weekend that doesn't clash with
>either easter holidays, paganello, open nationals or
>those horrid things we call finals...
>
>Okay, had my tuppence, back to work
>
>nicole
>mohawks
>
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