Another limitation to Tony's suggestion, although it was interesting, is that it is important for lower ranked teams to see first hand what ultimate is like at a higher level (i.e. the top four). This is also better for the develpment of the sport as a whole because teams can learn off of top level play.
Hargreaves --- Alex Bowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's absolutely ridiculous. A meaningless game is > where the result of > the game has no consequence for either team playing, > as on the Saturdays > at tour this year for the top 4 teams since we were > playing eachother > with no possibility of being eliminated. None of > the top 4 teams have > any problems with playing against competitive teams > outside the top 4, I > hope this hasn't been misinterpreted. > > alex > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Tony Hutton > Sent: 09 September 2004 13:13 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [BD] New Tour suggestion! > > I realise this suggestion will not appeal to all but > perhaps to > prevent the top 3-4 teams having these "meaningless > games" > they should split off from the tour to form a > 'superleague'. They > generally spend most of the year playing each other > any way. > > The A tour could then consist of the teams ranked > 5-20. > The B tour would be made up of the rest. > > For promotion/relegation after an event: > Winners of the A tour replace the losers of the > 'superleague' > while promotion/relegation from B to A tour remains > the same as > this year 2 up 2 down. > > Advantages of this in my opinion are: > > Superleague: > Regularly playing the 3 top teams therefore more > competitive/meaningful matches all weekend. > Get to play a 4th team due to promotion > from/relegation to A > tour. > Only a small venue required (1-2 pitches) + no party > necessary > (Jamie;-)). > Could even perhaps only play 1 day events (3 games), > but play > two or more tournaments to every A / B tour event. > > A tour: > Teams out of the top 3 finally have a realistic > chance of winning > an event. Games will be more competitive as teams > fight for the > right to play the top 3. The standard of games > should still be > relatively high. The lower half the A tour will also > be more > competitive as, in my opinion, this year the > standard of teams in > the 13-18 bracket were similar, with the same teams > being > promoted and relegated after each event) . Winners > of the A > tour will also be able compare themselves to the top > 3 by > promotion to the superleague and see how they need > to develop. > > B tour: > Fewer teams now the top 4 are missing therefore more > pitch > time and therefore more time to improve game skills. > Beginners > will get to play relatively competitive games but > still see the fun > side of ultimate at this level. > > Venues: > Also although in theory I am against having the tour > events at > different venues realistically with the number of > teams now > playing regularly I think it is inevitable that the > A and B tours will > be split between venues. However if possible I would > hope that > at least two events a year are held at the same > venue but only if > these venues can cater for the large numbers of > teams e.g. > venues such as Bristol (tour 1), Southampton > (previous years) > and Birmingham (Nationals this year). > > Tony > Sheffield Steal > > Regular disclaimer that these are just my opinions > and not those > of my team/friends/family/pets etc..... > > > Tony Hutton > Department of Engineering Materials > University of Sheffield > Sir Robert Hadfield Building > Mappin Street > Sheffield, S1 3JD > > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://zion.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - > http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp > > __________________________________________________ > BritDisc mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://zion.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc > Staying informed - > http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp > ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://zion.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp