Rebecca, et al
I think tournaments are not expensive, they are not cheap, but we get good value for money.
The whole debate about tour structure is largely due (I think?) to the fact that the UKU did not get enough bids to split the tour and hence overcrowded, etc etc tournaments.
So why do we want competition to drive down tour prices? This would surely make even less people willing to run tournaments, as one of the main reasons TD's run tournaments is because they feel they can cover their costs and time with the takings (and of course the other reason being their love of the game [i.p.emwink.gif] )
One suggestion I have heard before is to have a dedicated UKU based TD Team (or individual) who is paid part-time by UKU and who sort out the 4 tours, 4 mixed tours and nationals. Then there would be profit going to UKU, the need for just one set of tournament equipment (therefore it can be of high standard), etc. Practical? not for me to say... Stu Steal #02
>From: "Rebecca Forth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: britdisc@near.me.uk >Subject: [BD] Worrying trend >Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 10:01:09 +0100 (BST) > > >Dear anyone still interested in the debate: > >I'd just like to throw into the debate: The price of tours. >I am really beginning to feel tournament directors are charging far too >much and each year they escalate. With 50+ teams attending. The level of >profit is ridiculous and over and above for the level of work. > >In the past there have been two main arguments for increased tournament >feees : >1) If you want better pitch/off pitch services then you have to pay for them >2) If you don't like it run a tournament yourself > > > >I do not believe we have had any better services. You can see that >efforts are being made. But are they really improving services and do they >justify the level of TD profit at the expense of ultimate players? >We've still had holey dry fields with not enough water, been asked to take >scoreboards/set cones out and in some tours the end of game signal hasn't >even been clear. > > >The second argument, that you should run one yourself if you don't like >the current options, is not the way forwards, because everyone who does >choose to enter the tournament business (and it is a business in this >country like nowhere else in the world!) charges the same amount as >previous TD's and reaps the profits. And those charges are only >escalating. > > >If we are forced to pay through the nose for a tournament it would be good >if the UKU benefitted so they can implement many of the suggested future >initiatives. > > >I also think that the profits of the tours should be published. This way >the UKU can take a percentage of those profits. Whilst also maintaining a >cap on tournament fees. > > >Many of us dedicate a vast amount of money and time to our sport - it >would be nice to also feel like you weren't being taken for a ride >everytime you enter a tour. > > >Bex >Bliss > > >- > > >The age old argument about price for a tour > >The pitches were no better, I saw one petrol can filled of water all >weekend by our pitches. > >Should we really be paying £160 for a weekend for these > >-- >Rebecca Forth >Colt Foundation Research Fellow >Portex Anaesthesia, Intensive Therapy & Respiratory Unit >Institute of Child Health >30 Guilford Street >London >WC1N 1EH > >__________________________________________________ >BritDisc mailing list >BritDisc@near.me.uk >http://zion.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc >Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list BritDisc@near.me.uk http://zion.ranulf.net/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/informed.asp
