I'm sure I'm not the only one but I find it rather depressing to read Paul's email and the tone used in it. Calling out the UKU to sort something out just to benefit one club seems selfish. BD certainly isn't right place as the UKU would never be able to cope with the amount of work this would most certainly produce anytime anyone had a problem. I for don't know many sports that allow Juniors to compete at Senior level, so to say that events like these should take precedence over the a Junior Development schemes(which GB Juniors is) also in my opinion a little short sighted. As Paul said it laps with one of the Regional Qualifiers, there is no way it would be possible to miss out all of the uni qualifiers and national qualifiers without clashing somewhere I have played since the age of 13 and am thankful for the BUF and now the UKU for all the efforts they have put into GB Juniors and other GB teams. Without these amateurs we wouldn't have the strongest ultimate scene in Europe and ranked 5th in the world. The UK is spoilt for choice and this is down to the amateurs. V
________________________________ From: Afro Peat <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, 13 October 2011, 17:53 Subject: Re: [BD] Paul Ruff I think Paul raises some very valid issues and I am glad that he has sent this message out across the BD group, as I know he is not the only one to be asking these questions. Obviously, if you don't deal with juniors, none of this will effect you, and you will be asking why this wasn't just sent to UKU HQ, but for those who do, hopefully his message will open up a course of dialogue and (importantly) transparency within the way decisions are made with Junior Ultimate. Having an open massage sent out, means that not everyone will have to send individual messages to UKU and at least those concerned know the messages has been asked. An open response would also mean the UKU doesn't have to individually reply to anyone else who may have asked these questions to them directly. I don't presonally know if anyone else has rasied these questions with UKU/GB, but I know quite a few are asking them, in particular the juniors for whom it concerns (and many of them don't actually know the direct channels of communication). That's my two pence, Afro Peat x On 13 October 2011 15:09, alex smith <[email protected]> wrote: Maybe this email would be better addressed to the UKU, in paragraphs? > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:32:15 +0000 > From: Paul Ruff <[email protected]> > Subject: [BD] Junior GB Training > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > I was dissapointed to learn that there is an Under 20's GB training session > planned for the weekend of one of the Regional Indoor National Qualifiers on > 19th November. This is a major clash. Last year my Under 20's team qualified > for the Indoor Nationals and were really excited to try again this year with > preparations in full swing. Now a 'compulsorary Under 20's session' has been > added in which blows it out of the water. This is once again evidence of the > disjointed nature of UK Ultimate. Quite frankly this would not happen in any > other sport. The UKU should coordinate all sessions so as to avoid major > clashes and not put Juniors in situations like this. I understand that the > calended is chock-a-block but there are certain clashes which should be > avoided. In the UKU we have a situation where the Junior section seems to > opperate totally seperate from the governing body and steam rollers their own > decisions and training dates accross the calender as they choose. It is an amature approach and one which does nothing for the reputation of the UKU as coaches are left wondering what else will be sprung upon them. My players are now dissapointed at not having a crack at the regionals and left wondering if they should play for GB or not. What kind of message are we sending out here? You can play for GB but it means you cant enter a National Indoor qualifier - very bizarre! This has not been a great year for the apparent fractured and disjointed GB junior scene and I would call upon the UKU to step in and try to sort this out. Communication between coaches, players and the UKU needs to be improved.A central calender needs to be produced to include ALL GB junior training dates well in advance so that plans can be made and clashes avoided.No GB team, should have the right to suddenly announce that there will be another training session on x date and that if you don't attend then you can't play for GB. That is just plain weird. As head of PE in my school, I deal with governing body's of many different sports. In each sport the National team is coordinated at all levels from head office and training and trials dates are set way in advance so that teachers and parents are clear on what is happening. Get this - they even talk to other sports to try to avoid clashes in their calenders. I would hope that the Under 20's organisers would either consider moving the date or this session or at least cut some players some slack if they want to spend the weekend trying to qualify for the indoor Nationals. Paul > > > > END __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed __________________________________________________ BritDisc mailing list [email protected] http://www.fysh.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/britdisc Staying informed - http://www.ukultimate.com/staying-informed
