---------- Původní zpráva ---------- Od: Petr Baudis Komu: Brmlab: Hackerspace Prague (main discussion) Datum: 11. 3. 2015 14:51:42 Předmět: Re: [Brmlab] Fabtotum
>FYI, if you had a point to make, it would have worked better if it >didn't span 248 lines. I think that polls are a better way of determining opinion than mail. My purpos was not to share an opinion, but to share a line of reasoning. On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:44:09PM +0100, timothyho...@seznam.cz wrote: ..snip.. >> In the end, I would have invested hundreds of thousands of Euros in research >> and development, I would have outside investors to please, and there would >> be no way that my low cost haptic computer system would be anything like low >> cost, and it certainly would not be open source. > Your metaphore works if brmlab would be going to do the same. > In fact, Fabtotum is *very* *very* cheap for what it should be doing. > (Suspiciously cheap, some would point out.) I was reacting to Mario's general sentiment that we should aquire tools, not to the Fabtotum specifically. I agree that the Fabtotum is very cheep and perhaps interesting in it's cheepness. >> I agree with you generally, that brmlab could use some more good tools. >> However, I wory that if we invest too heavilly in proprietary soloutions, >> brmlab will lose its value. Brmlab shouldn't exist to build captive >> comunities for companies like EagleCad who wish to get free work done by >> enthusiests. Brmlab should exist for its own purposes and for the purposes >> of promoting the DIY and open source communities as a whole. > Yet plenty of people in brmlab use eagle, because it's the best tool >for the job due to various factors. Some people don't want to make >certain compromises, which is fine, but others do. And it's not like >settling with using a CC-BY-NC licenced equipment is that awful >a compromise, compared to a completely proprietary tool. I agree that CC-BY-NC is not that awful, what is awful however, is the recent trend of companies claiming that not-so-open products are open. > Your argument would also work much better if there would be a bunch of > people working on some Fabtotum analogue in brmlab right now. I think > most people wouldn't even consider buying it then. But the choice is > *not* bought tool -- diy tool, it is bought tool -- no tool. Yes, but did we consider the possibility of purchasing the parts for one of the fully opensource routers if we are going to buy a router? Tim _______________________________________________ Brmlab mailing list Brmlab@brmlab.cz https://brmlab.cz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brmlab