On 24 Mar 15, at 17:50, Radek Pilar wrote: > On 24.3.2015 17:25, Mario Lombardo wrote: >> >> Ax, if this is a problem with BRMlab, then we should do something so >> that we can keep our tools/hacks in working order for all to use and >> enjoy. This is a similar claim as having a tool walk away, stolen. >> I've heard the typical answer, "Well, it's a hackerspace… What can we >> do?" >> >> If we have member problems, we need to implement member solutions. >> I'm not an advocate of surveillance, but we do have some surveillance >> in the lab. Perhaps we can have something less intrusive, such as a >> check-out system regarding tools or equipment being used. I'm >> thinking of a device like a vending machine where we'd use our BRMrfid >> to check-in and check-out equipment. > That is not going to work and will be really annoying, more annoying > than some tool missing from time to time. If I want to work on something > I want to work on something and not spend time scanning barcode on a > screwdriver.
It doesn't have to be as granular as a screwdriver, but let's say a power tool, a soldering iron, or to make the 3D printer work. I imagine it wouldn't be too much trouble. I would even be willing to use the glue gun under those terms. Hand tools can be exempt. Like I said, this is for us, not to annoy us but to help. Anyway, whenever security is used a bit of convenience is lost. We have to tolerate a bit to have things in working order. > >> Maybe then using the generated contact list of people that last used a >> tool, we could have a dialog with them if it looks trashed or missing? >> Maybe something as simple as taking a photo when a member last used a >> tool would be enough proof that they left it OK. > Same issue. I don't want to spend hour taking photos of all tools I've > used during the night. Yes, I agree it's cumbersome. It's just one of my ideas to make things easier and nobody needs to be the needed bloody-mother-hated-bitch. But yes I agree, "Uff! I have to take another freakin' photo." Maybe too much, butt let's leave it on the list of possibilities. > >> I remember several times the hardware lab being complained about. >> Sadly, trashing it still goes on very much. A check-out system would >> ensure returns for equipment since it might mean members paying for >> missing equipment. We also have many testing equipment and lab power >> supplies that can be secured/installed permanently. Yes, this limits >> mobility, but guest what… it'll stay there for anybody! :) Thoughts? > Permanent installation is definetely not possible. What about power > supply? Sometimes you need it in HW lab, sometimes at dirty table, > sometimes at table at socroom, sometimes in radiolab, sometimes > downstairs. Same goes for frequency generator or oscilloscope. OK fair enough, but how about it actually has a home, not just random on the workbench. I mean like a slot where it slides in and is used generally. After all, most members use these larger devices on the workbench and not elsewhere. You'd still be able to take it and know where to return it. If it goes missing, we can have a handy dandy notepad next to it. Write and stick your message, "Zdroj v socroom do 17:40." Or something like that. > > I still think the best approach is to force people that don't clean the > space after themselves to do it. Educate them, if you wish to call that > way. However it is really difficult. > > Happy hacking, > M > <0xE60DBF0D.asc>_______________________________________________ Ahh the best possible outcome, but I don't want to be hated for being a good steward. I'm also not at the lab all the time to make sure the kids are putting away their toys and cleaning up. Even some of my friends have made a mess, and I simply sigh. Seriously, what can we do better and more active than this? To inspire, "As a creative person, you want to start with a blank canvas." --Bibhu Mohapatra _______________________________________________ Brmlab mailing list Brmlab@brmlab.cz https://brmlab.cz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brmlab
