Jeg kan egentligt godt lide at brygge i glas ballonerne - det gør jo at man
kan følge bedre
med i gær processen uden at skulle lette låget på en gærspand med en mulig
infektion til følge.
I Glas ballonen kan man se om gærcellerne har lagt sig på bunden, så man ved
hvornår det
vil være passende at omstkke. Yderligere kan man se om øllet er klaret op og
klar til at komme
på flaske. Så ind til videre holder jeg mig til de gode gamle vin balloner
:-)
Efter at have rengjort vinballonerne i sand og vand skyller jeg dem grundigt
i koldt rent vand,
og herefter hælder jeg 2 l vand og 1 ml iodophor i lader den stå en times
tid - selvfølgelig ryster
jeg den ind imellem. Herefter skyller jeg ballonen i kogt varmt vand, men
ikke i kogende da jeg
er bange for at ballonen skal springe (Mange sider at det er unødvendigt at
skylle iodophor af -
men jeg har det bedst med at gøre det). Dette ser ud til at være nok
rengøring, dog kan jeg kun
vurdere ud fra mit første bryg som endnu ikke er færdigt.
Jeg er selv lidt skræmt af diverse infektions historier her på siden, og
mener at jeg selv er meget
omhyggelig med at holde udstyret rent under processen. Det ville jo være
ærgeligt at ødelægge
et godt bryg. "Better safe than sory !!"
> On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 11:06:10PM +0100, Kenneth Abildgaard wrote:
>>
>> Jeg er netop gået igang med mit første bryg, og i den forbindelse har jeg
>> fået fremskaffet 2 stk. 25 liter vinballoner til at gære øllet i.
>
> Welcome to the interesting hobby of brewing beer.
>
> These days, most people don't use glass balloons, but simple plastic
> buckets.
> The main reason is that it is so much easier to get a hand in and clean
> the
> thing properly. Also, they are much less risky to break in your hands, and
> even if they do, they may not kill you in the process...
>
>> Nu måtte der skrappere midler til ! (Det er her miljø forkæmpere skal
>> stoppe med at læse - nu startede min kemiske krig !)
>>
>> Næste forsøg var med kaotisksoda (250 Gram til 2½ liter vand) skrappe
>> sager
>> - vandet blev meget varmt og det sydede og boblede - Men nej Den sorte
>> klat
>> sad der stadig - og det samme med kalkringen...
>
> Actually, it is not chaotic soda, but caustic soda. Indeed it is a
> dangerous
> thing to play with, but often it works. I hope you did wear safety glasses
> while playing with the thing, and had a clear idea what to do if you
> happened
> to spalsh it on your face - you only have seconds to react if it goes
> wrong.
> (hint - grab the first water hose (shower, what ever), point it in your
> eyes,
> and keep it running, within seconds, and you may not go blind)
>
>
>
>> Fnys - nå men kalk-ringen skulle da væk, så i med 37% Edikesyre, så
>> skulle
>> den vel nok forsvinde ! - Men nej både den sorte klat og kalkringen sad
>> der
>> stadig..
>
> The ring was probably not chalk, but something that had been floating on
> the
> beer. Here I don't know enough about the chemistry, but your idea sounds
> good
> enough - strong acid. Acetic acid ("eddikesyre") is all right, but you had
> to
> dilute it with lots of water to get up to the ring. You could have started
> with something stronger, like hydrochloric acid (HCl, "saltsyre").
>
> Another thing with these strong chemicals is to give them time. You don't
> say
> now long you let them do magic. In hard cases like these, I wouldn't
> hesitate
> to give them overnight, or even a week. Stir a bit in between, so fresh
> stuff
> can get to attack the dirt...
>
>> [...]
>> Jeg hældte ca. 2 kg. sand i ballonen, samt et par liter vand og herefter
>> svingede jeg ballonen rundt nogle minutter - og minsanten !! Sandet sleb
>> både kalkrester og den sorte klat væk i løbet af få minutter !
>>
>> Så skulle nogen af jer andre nogensinde stå med en beskidt vinballon, så
>> er
>> dette måden at rengøre den på - Miljø venligt og effektivt !
>
> You have a good point here - simple mechanical cleaning works quite well.
> I
> would hesitate to use sand in almost anything - except a glass balloon, it
> is
> made of so hard material that the sand won't do any damage.
>
> Just remember that after scrubbing it with sand, you still need to clean
> it
> with something that dissolves things (your soda works fine), and after
> that
> you need to desinfect the surfaces. Here special stuff like Iodophor works
> fine. This may sound like an overkill, but sand grains are big, even if
> they
> remove all visible stuff, there can still be some invisibly small amount
> of
> stuff left, and under that can be a small colony of bacteria... Which can
> infect your beer!
>
>
> Let me here defend myself against all you who think I am talking serious
> overkill here. I admit I am - I would never do such violence to my brewing
> bucket, unless it had been let to dry for a long time with who knows what
> in
> it. In everyday use, a bit of hot water, a good brush, and if need be,
> some
> Chlorine-based claning agent will do a lot. I still do the Iodophor stuff
> every time, though. And haven't had an infection for a while (knock.
> knock).
>
>
> Good luck with the brews. Hope you never have to fight down a really
> persistent house infection, but end up every time brewing
>
> beer anyway
>
> -H
>
> --
> Heikki Levanto "In Murphy We Turst" heikki (at) lsd (dot) dk
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