Richard Bejtlich wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 17:06:57 -0500, Mikel King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


It's not that I don't like Cisco, really honest, it's just that some of
their recent course changes, and cert practices seem to be nothing more
than test revenue streams and of little real value.



Mikel, can you elaborate?  I just took a CCNA class with Todd Lammle
two weeks ago, and passed my CCNA last week.  I thought the class was
a valuable way to learn networking and IOS, not a "teach to the test"
affair.  I thought the test was difficult and very thorough.  More
thoughts on my blog:

http://taosecurity.blogspot.com/2005/03/passed-my-ccna-test-i-just-finished.html

If you're referring to the variety of Cisco certs, you may have a
point.  Still, especially at the higher levels, it's simply too much
for a CCIE to know voice, routing, switching, security, etc. to the
level expected by Cisco.  Specialization is the only way to test deep
skills fairly.

Richard


To maintain the company's partnership level we must maintain various additional certs, like the bogus wireless, to name one. At a small company, where say you only have a few engineers, and Cisco require that they ALL have multiple extra certs or your company is dropped from the partner program. That is what I am refering to. We seem to be spending more time studying for certs and les time solving client problems...

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