different levels/types of certification exist for other platforms also - M$ (mcp, mcsa, mcse, messaging, security), and solaris (systems, networks, security)... i'm not really suggesting anything specific here, just stating what others have done. if the bds cert track is similarly broken down, these would be things to consider. w/ respect to this thread, where might sendmail or other standard apps fit into the track?
--- Joshua Sidwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Sancho2k.net Lists > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 8:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Fwd: [BSDcert] junior, senior system > administrator (?) > > Arnaud Bergeron wrote: > > > >> BTW, I don't like sendmail, prefer Postfix > instead. > > > > > > Everyone has his favorite, of course. That's why > we shouldn't be > > app-specific. > > Personal preferences aside (I am almost to the point > of despising > Sendmail myself), I believe there is still merit in > considering Sendmail > by default for BSD certification tracks. > > o It is part of the base operating system for at > least FreeBSD and > OpenBSD (never used any others.) OpenBSD goes so > far as to > include an optimized/hardened fork of it with > their system. Other > MTAs are available as ports or packages at best > and need to > be retrofitted into the system using mailwrapper > or other > modifications. > o It is arguably the most ubiquitous piece of > application software > in BSD servers in history. > o It is still the #1 MTA on the Internet even though > so many people > claim to dislike it. > o It is undoubtedly the most capable and featureful > MTA available. > o You can't run from it. It's always going to be > there. You may not > use it now or like to use it ever, but chances > are that future > employment will put you in a position where you > must know it. > > I think its slightly unfair to harp on sendmail for > being application > specific any more than it is to call foul on CVS, > for example. You HAVE > to know and understand CVS to maintain your BSD > systems (in one form or > another) although you could say that it is > application specific along > with Subversion, RCS, CVSup or others. > > So yes, while I agree that it is application > specific knowhow, my > opinion is that Sendmail needs to be considered part > of the core > knowledge for BSD systems management. > > DS > _______________________________________________ > BSDcert mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/bsdcert > > I am not sure how much of this dialog I have missed, > but here's my two > cents. Breaking the certification down into > different levels may be an > option here rather than having a single monolithic > certification. Providing > a certification for a Junior Sys Admin that doesn't > require the advanced > knowledge needed to get Sendmail up/running/hardened > seems like an > intelligent thing to do. Having a more advanced > certification for System > Administration that is up front about the > application requirements would > offer the benefit of allowing backup operators, > daily administrators as > opposed to system architects to become certified and > demonstrate their > ability to complete their jobs to peers and > management without requiring > them to become Sendmail gurus. (sorry, run-on > sentence.... :) > > JS > > > _______________________________________________ > BSDcert mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/bsdcert > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ _______________________________________________ BSDcert mailing list [email protected] http://lists.nycbug.org/mailman/listinfo/bsdcert
