>  In some areas of the world such as Canada the use of the word engineer in a
> certification or title waves a red flag in the face of Professional
> Engineers.  After over 30 years of battling with them in another profession
> I have learned that it is pointless to attempt to reason with them.  They
> cost one organisation I belonged to thousands of dollars to implement a name
> change of the organisation.  The current theme they have is anyone working
> on systems or software of any description in Canada should either be
> Professional Engineer (read University degree in engineering or applied
> science) or working under their direct supervision.  Canada is not the only
> country that has that issue going on, many other countries in the world are
> also having similar battles over the word.  If they as a group wish to be so
> much of a "Dog in the Manger" or anal over the use of a word, frankly it is
> not worth the fight, time or energy to hassle with them.
> Norm


Just for the record, the word "engineer" will not appear in either the 
associate or professional level exam.

Dru

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