Here is what I got:

      ]xterm off
      ]log 39
    Log facility ')LOAD and )SAVE details             ' is now ON
      'libemacs' ⎕FX 'EMACS'
EMACS
      EMACS[1] 0
Network listener started. Connection information: mode:tcp addr:40663
      )load Devices
Loading file /home/blake/workspaces/Devices.xml
read_Workspace()
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read_StateIndicator()
SAVED 2014-4-27  16:11:45 (GMT-5)
VALUE ERROR
auto[11]  start
          ^


====================================================
SEGMENTATION FAULT
Segmentation fault
blake@sony-linux-laptop ~ $



On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Elias Mårtenson <loke...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You don't need Emacs to reproduce. All it takes is to have the backend
> active. You can start it my loading the library:
>
> *      'libemacs' ⎕FX 'EMACS'*
>
> and then start the server:
>
> *      EMACS[1] 0*
>
> That's all it takes. After that it should be easy to reproduce the problem.
>
> Regards,
> Elias
>
>
> On 30 April 2014 20:56, Juergen Sauermann 
> <juergen.sauerm...@t-online.de>wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>> problem on my machine is that I don't have emacs installed.
>> And without it is difficult to reproduce. Maybe Elias can help
>> to narrow this down a little.
>>
>> If you are not getting a "vid=" printout then the fault is probably not
>> where I thought it would be.
>>
>> The thing is that based on the information so far I can't really see what
>> happened.
>> To get more info, for example if this is happening during or after
>> loading of the workspace
>> file you could try the following:
>>
>> 1. 'make develop clean all' on top level (or ./configure
>> DYNAMIC_LOG_WANTED=yes
>>
>> 2. after that you can enable different logging facilities on APL level
>> (in the case of workspace
>> loading that would be 39); ]log without an argument shows the numbers:
>>
>>       ]log 39
>>       )LOAD Devices
>>
>> This way we can figure step by step where the problem is. May take a
>> while.
>>
>> /// Jürgen
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/30/2014 02:31 PM, Blake McBride wrote:
>>
>> Isn't this just such an example?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Elias Mårtenson <loke...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> The Emacs mode should not be hiding the output on standard error. If
>>> anyone happens to see it do that, please let me know because that would
>>> mean you've come across a bug.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Elias
>>>  On 30 Apr 2014 20:04, "Juergen Sauermann" <
>>> juergen.sauerm...@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hi Blake,
>>>>
>>>> if the problem is that stderr gets lost, then it might help if you
>>>> change
>>>> Archive.cc line 1348:
>>>>
>>>>         CERR << "vid=" << vid << endl;
>>>>         FIXME;
>>>>
>>>> from CERR to COUT. That should at least show the vid that tells me
>>>> where in the
>>>> .apl file this happens. Just a guess because i am not that familiar
>>>> with emacs mode.
>>>>
>>>> /// Jürgen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/29/2014 10:19 PM, Blake McBride wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't know how to get the vid printed on stderr since I only get the
>>>> error running through Emacs.  If someone can give me a way of simulating
>>>> this error without emacs, I'd be glad to do that.
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>  Blake
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Juergen Sauermann <
>>>> juergen.sauerm...@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I managed to reproduce this once with )LOAD Devices (and without
>>>>> emacs), but after turning Archive related
>>>>> logging on and off again I did not happen again. I have added some
>>>>> more printout so that I
>>>>> can see which value ID is causing this (SVN 237). If it happens again,
>>>>> please send me the
>>>>> .xml (if it is a different one) and the vid printed on stderr.
>>>>>
>>>>> /// Jürgen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/28/2014 05:11 PM, Blake McBride wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the workspace.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Juergen Sauermann <
>>>>> juergen.sauerm...@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have initialized current_char in SVN 234, but can't see either how
>>>>>> this would
>>>>>> make a difference. I would be interested in the workspace file as
>>>>>> well if the error persists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /// Jürgen
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>

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