On 12/19/25 2:32 PM, Stan Marsh wrote:

Just to be clear, the point is that the user *is* running one of those
programs (or is simply trying to log into the system, although these
days, there probably aren't many folks still using a (virtual) tty to
login; most people use a GUI and even there, it probably is setup to
auto-login to the desktop on boot) but is confused by the lack of echo
and, as I mentioned in a prior post, ends up reaching for the power
cord in order to get things working again.

Sure. My point is that you really only do that once. If you're intent on
getting something done -- sudo/ssh/login/whatever -- you figure out how to
do it by looking it up, or asking on the web, or whatever. You're not
simply going to pull the power cord every time you try to run ssh.

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