I don't think GNU's or any other bot is perfect, and certainly not the cube
handling.

But to claim there is no skill to cube handling is tantamount to claiming
the earth is flat.
I am unsure why you think that here, of all places, people will get sucked
into interacting with a troll just because he insults them.

You can spend your time on meaningless drivel all you want, but don't
expect sane and busy people to participate.

-Joseph


On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 at 16:14, MK <playbg-...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On 1/28/2024 4:29 PM, Joseph Heled wrote:
>
> > I hope you realize you will need hundreds of thousands
> > of games, millions maybe, to get statistical significance.
>
> Okay, well, let's try to have a rational conversation
> about this. (I won't quote the entire previous post.)
>
> How many hundreds of thousands or millions of games
> have you guys ran to determine that the current cube
> strategy adopted by all bots and humans (except me),
> is indeed the best strategy?
>
> None. Zero. You all believe it "myth-ematically".
> (Ha! Aren't I the "monster punster"..? :)
>
> BTW: It's never too late and there is a fairly easy
> way of doing this, and won't take long if done in a
> spot checking manner for starters. Let me know if
> you guys would want to do it and dare the outcome.
>
> Still, I don't mind your asking from me something that
> you all haven't asked from yourselves. I'll be glad to
> run a hundred thousand games for starters (and more if
> needed later). But before I do that, we need to agree
> on certain things.
>
> 1- Will you trust my results? Probably not. Nobody in
> the past openly said that they trusted the results of
> my previous experiments. That's why I'm always urging
> you guys to run your own tests and sharing my scripts.
>
> 2- You and preferably a "statistically significant" ;)
> number of credible members of the BG community have to
> commit beforehand to what kind of results will convince
> you all that the current "cube skill theory" is bogus.
>
> If such a self-destructive mutant cube strategy in this
> script wins 5% against GnuBG World-Class, for example,
> will it be enough to convince you all? Maybe 10%? More?
> You have to name it and commit to it before I start.
>
> I have older spare CPU's that I can run 24/7 for this.
> But alternatively and preferably for more reasons than
> one, several of you can run shorter sessions concurrently
> and accummulate several hundreds of thousands, if not
> millions, of games in a matter of a few days, with your
> own results that you can trust.
>
> How about it guys...??
>
> BTW: this not the only mutant cube experiment I have in
> mind but let's start with this one from the very bottom.
>
> MK
>
>

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