Until now I've resisted on commenting on this little Icecat family fall-out
between some of the family members  :-)

I can see some reason in all the points being made from all parties - some
perhaps more plausible/evidential/or whatever, than others.

For my two-penneth single point gut-feeling view (not just for Icecat
either), I would not expect to see community contributed open-source  etc
effort to develop/build for platforms and so forth where commercial
gain/interest is involved (usually for a minority few too). I would expect
it to be low on priority if it was part of any work, unless there was some
mandated, agreed and valuable reason to.  Yes I know, sometimes it helps to
do so, but I'm not sure in this case.

I really appreciate all the clever people who work on Linux and
open-source, community inspired and driven software efforts (and in other
projects too) and make those available for use  - I'd be in a worse place
without them and I cannot thank all those people enough...it warms the
heart to see people coming together to achieve things in this manner.

Thank you.
Habs





On 20 March 2017 at 02:22, Ian Dunn <du...@gnu.org> wrote:

>
> I see what you're saying, awakeyet.  From a certain perspective, you make
> perfect sense.  Attempting to bog down the maintainer of a project like GNU
> IceCat to try and take it down is something I could see a competitor
> doing.  I won't argue that there are rotten people that do pull shady,
> petty tactics like that to get rid of the competition.
>
> But there are also good people.  People like Daniel, that only wanted to
> see support for his OS.  He wants to use GNU IceCat, but he got attacked by
> people that laughed him out for not using GNU/Linux.  There could be 100
> reasons he can't or won't switch, and we should respect that.  If we don't
> show our users respect, but instead assume that perfectly honest people are
> trying to troll or attack us, then we're going to lose people.  Not
> everyone is out to get someone else, although I know it can feel that way
> sometimes.
>
> Everyone remember: We're all here because we want to see GNU IceCat
> succeed.  I've been watching the development for years.  I've seen two
> maintainers try and fail to keep up with Mozilla's development cycle, and
> now a third is struggling to keep up.  That's why it's up to us to be
> supportive, not just of him, but of each other.
>
> I know it's easy to label awakeyet as a conspiracy theorist and move on
> without understanding his perspective, but we should all keep in mind that
> he might be right.  And awakeyet, you need to be willing to accept that you
> might be wrong.  I'm not saying anyone's right or wrong here, but this
> argument is going to piss people off, and anger will only make it worse.
>
> GNU IceCat is struggling enough without us all squabbling amongst each
> other.  Let's end this now before things get any worse, and get back to
> supporting the browser we all love.
>
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