Absolutely right. Everyone should calm down and look at the common
greater good. Thank you for your appreciative words.
Oh, and to everyone who helped to develop Icecat and other open source
software: THANK YOU, YOU PEOPLE ARE AWESOME.
Am 20.03.17 um 16:13 schrieb b...@shroggslodge.freeserve.co.uk:
Until now I've resisted on commenting on this little Icecat family
fall-out between some of the family members :-)
I can see some reason in all the points being made from all parties -
some perhaps more plausible/evidential/or whatever, than others.
For my two-penneth single point gut-feeling view (not just for Icecat
either), I would not expect to see community contributed open-source
etc effort to develop/build for platforms and so forth where
commercial gain/interest is involved (usually for a minority few too).
I would expect it to be low on priority if it was part of any work,
unless there was some mandated, agreed and valuable reason to. Yes I
know, sometimes it helps to do so, but I'm not sure in this case.
I really appreciate all the clever people who work on Linux and
open-source, community inspired and driven software efforts (and in
other projects too) and make those available for use - I'd be in a
worse place without them and I cannot thank all those people
enough...it warms the heart to see people coming together to achieve
things in this manner.
Thank you.
Habs
On 20 March 2017 at 02:22, Ian Dunn <du...@gnu.org
<mailto:du...@gnu.org>> wrote:
I see what you're saying, awakeyet. From a certain perspective,
you make perfect sense. Attempting to bog down the maintainer of
a project like GNU IceCat to try and take it down is something I
could see a competitor doing. I won't argue that there are rotten
people that do pull shady, petty tactics like that to get rid of
the competition.
But there are also good people. People like Daniel, that only
wanted to see support for his OS. He wants to use GNU IceCat, but
he got attacked by people that laughed him out for not using
GNU/Linux. There could be 100 reasons he can't or won't switch,
and we should respect that. If we don't show our users respect,
but instead assume that perfectly honest people are trying to
troll or attack us, then we're going to lose people. Not everyone
is out to get someone else, although I know it can feel that way
sometimes.
Everyone remember: We're all here because we want to see GNU
IceCat succeed. I've been watching the development for years.
I've seen two maintainers try and fail to keep up with Mozilla's
development cycle, and now a third is struggling to keep up.
That's why it's up to us to be supportive, not just of him, but of
each other.
I know it's easy to label awakeyet as a conspiracy theorist and
move on without understanding his perspective, but we should all
keep in mind that he might be right. And awakeyet, you need to be
willing to accept that you might be wrong. I'm not saying
anyone's right or wrong here, but this argument is going to piss
people off, and anger will only make it worse.
GNU IceCat is struggling enough without us all squabbling amongst
each other. Let's end this now before things get any worse, and
get back to supporting the browser we all love.
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