On 3/8/26 6:01 PM, [email protected] wrote:
Hey Hurd friends!
I'd like to get some consensus for how we might fix https://gnu.hurd.org
You mean hurd.gnu.org?
being fairly out of date. First let me describe the status quo. gnu.hurd.org is hosted by the FSF.
It is out of date, because to update hurd.gnu.org one must follow the cumbersome directions that I believe are found on this page (1). Samuel has been the main person that has done this for years. Thanks Samuel! He mainly focuses on updating the qoths now.
The more up to date wiki is located at https://darnassus.sceen.net/~hurd-web/ .
It is a Hurd powered website, and when the AI bots do not attack it, it can be
quite fast.
We get AI crawler traffic?
One can easily edit the wiki on both hurd.gnu.org or at darnassus via pressing the
"Edit" button, or one can email git patches to [email protected].
Now that I've described the status quo, let me describe some possible solutions.
We could have someone volunteer to update hurd.gnu.org via the CVS method, but
this will always be a manual process. We could have many wiki mirror websites
like: https://hurdos.com/wiki (it's my site, but searching does not work) or
https://hurd.ion.nu/index.html (searching does work, but not the edit button).
The person behind hurd.ion.nu, (Alicia on irc) has offered that site to be the
main Hurd wiki. Do this person want us to re-direct hurd.gnu.org to hurd.ion.nu
I'd prefer darnassus and hurd.gnu.org
? The cost of hosting hurd.gnu.org could be quite expensive. I swore that I once
saw a video, where the leader of the OpenBSD project mentioned that it costs him
$500 a month to host OpenBSD.org ... The AI bots really do hammer websites a
ton. Here's my favorite blog post that explains how hard it is to fight the AI
bots (3).
No, we are not an big project like OpenBSD. It is not as much of a worry
than it is to them.
Thoughts,
Joshua Branson
gnucode.org
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1. https://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/HomepageUpload/
2.
https://drewdevault.com/2025/03/17/2025-03-17-Stop-externalizing-your-costs-on-me.html
3.
https://drewdevault.com/2025/03/17/2025-03-17-Stop-externalizing-your-costs-on-me.html
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