June 20, 2026 at 12:14 PM, "Bradley Morgan" <[email protected] 
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> wrote:



> 
> On 20 June 2026 17:05:02 BST, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> > 
> > June 20, 2026 at 4:58 AM, "Bradley Morgan" <[email protected]
> > mailto:[email protected]?to=%22Bradley%20Morgan%22%20%3Cinclude%40grrlz.net%3E
> > 
> > > 
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > >  
> > >  On June 20, 2026 1:11:13 AM GMT+01:00, [email protected] wrote:
> > >  
> > >  > 
> > >  > June 19, 2026 at 6:05 PM, "Bradley Morgan" <[email protected]
> > >  >
> > > 
> > mailto:[email protected]?to=%22Bradley%20Morgan%22%20%3Cinclude%40grrlz.net%3E
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > wrote:
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > On June 19, 2026 11:02:03 PM GMT+01:00, Paulo Duarte
> > >  > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > > 
> > >  > > > > 
> > >  > > > > On 19 Jun 2026, at 22:50, Bradley Morgan <[email protected]>
> > > 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > >  > > > > Good that sergey did it (atleast some) :)
> > >  > > > > 
> > >  > > > He did 95% of the work.
> > >  > > > 
> > >  > > Oh. Well, could we make some sort of telegram group? Or are you
> > > 
> > folks
> > 
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > >  > not
> > >  > 
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > into telegram.. :(
> > >  > > 
> > >  > I would imagine that most people are not into that in the Hurd group,
> > > 
> > but
> > 
> > > 
> > > > some
> > >  > might be ok with it. I personally don't like that it is routed on a
> > >  > central
> > >  > server...
> > >  > 
> > >  > There is always #hurd irc channel.
> > >  > 
> > >  > XMPP (jabber) supports public rooms (maybe private ones). JMP.chat
> > >  > 
> > >  > Mumble voice chat would be an option.
> > >  > 
> > >  > I am a member of the FSF, and they support jitsi chatrooms (audio /
> > >  > video).
> > >  > 
> > >  Sorry to be so nitpicky here, but I don't like the UI on irc (on mobile)
> > >  I prefer to do my informal chats and stuff on mobile.
> > >  
> > >  Telegram has a Amazing UI tbh, and it's more privacy focused then e.g:
> > >  discord 
> > >  
> > >  I'm suggesting it because then I can chat where I pretty much always
> > > 
> > talk
> > 
> > > 
> > > to people, I mean, I have mastodon too.
> > > 
> > No need to apologize. You are not nickpicking. You are just describing
> > what
> > you want. :)
> > 
> > I believe that matrix is a more libre option for the Hurd, and they do
> > have mobile
> > clients. Riot is one. Maybe next week I'll re-set up my matrix client...
> > 
> > Unless, I can set up dino-im to bridge to matrix...should be possible.
> > 
> > Are you sure that you don't want to try XMPP? We can create private /
> > public chat
> > rooms. And jmp.chat has a android client. cheogram: 
> > https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.cheogram.android/
> > which is based on the "conversations" XMPP client. Both work splendidly
> > in mobile. 
> > 
> > P.S. hmmmm, well I actually am trying a fun experiment. For at least a
> > week the only
> > computer that I will use is the Hurd running on real hardware...does the
> > Hurd support
> > a telagram client?
> > 
> Port it! It's a debian application 
> 
> They also have a web client

I am not a big fan of telegram, so I probably won't try to port the debian
application.  But I could try to run the web client.  The Hurd's best modern
web browser is luabit ( in my opinion ), which might be powerful enough to run
the telegram client.

> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > > 
> > >  > > > > 
> > >  > > > > Are you a ARM folk too?
> > >  > > > > 
> > >  > > > An enthusiast, not an ARM system developer though. Did it for
> > > 
> > quite
> > 
> > > 
> > > > > > some time for i686 and x86_64, but got so many years working with
> > >  > > > business applications with high level languages that started
> > > 
> > really
> > 
> > > 
> > > > > > missing the low-level C stuff.
> > >  > > > 
> > >  > > > I daily drive in a M4 MacBook, have a few Raspberry Pis and a few
> > >  > > 
> > >  > other
> > >  > 
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > > ARM SoCs. But my ultimate goal is to have it booting on an old M1
> > > 
> > Mac
> > 
> > > 
> > > > > > Mini, even if just via serial TTY.
> > >  > > > 
> > >  > > Could we get it booting starting off on u-boot? If we modify the
> > > 
> > code to
> > 
> > > 
> > > > > allow hurd to work, because currently it only supports Linux
> > > 
> > loading
> > 
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > >  > > > 
> > >  > > > > 
> > >  > > > > Perhaps if we are lucky ;) we could get arm.com folks to work
> > > 
> > on
> > 
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > >  > hurd.
> > >  > 
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > > > but we may not be lucky :(
> > >  > > > > 
> > >  > > > That would be great.
> > >  > > > 
> > >  > > If anyone that knows arm.com people sees this thread, get their
> > >  > > attention, please.
> > >  > > 
> > >  > > If you told me how id get their attention, id surely push it a try.
> > >  > > 
> > >  > I sometimes give puri.sm a suggestion (business idea). You could try
> > > 
> > to
> > 
> > > 
> > > > convince them
> > >  > to port their Librem 5 to the Hurd. I own such a device. The librem 5
> > >  > supports
> > >  > a virtual serial console via USB...
> > >  > 
> > >  > [email protected] mailto:[email protected]
> > >  > 
> > >  Intriguing, I'm into arm.com people
> > >  more, but I'm sure we can do that, for them to think about it, what
> > >  we need to do is make them realize
> > >  the benefits of porting their machine/chipset to the hurd.
> > >  
> > >  They won't just do it for no reason..
> > > 
> > I already sent them an email saying that they should support the Hurd.
> > 
> > Also the librem 5 supports a hardware serial too!
> > 
> > > 
> > > (Same with the arm.com folks tbf)
> > >  
> > >  > 
> > >  > 
> > >  > 
> > >  Thanks!
> > >
> > 
> Thanks!
>

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