On Sun, 2025-11-16 at 04:34 +0000, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> > Hi! I've been browsing the issue tracker on GitLab, and I came
> 
> > across issue #6776 (
> 
> > https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/6776 ). Though I
> 
> > couldn't understand metafont and would more than likely cause
> > damage
> 
> > instead of helping if I went the coding route, I can draw the
> > glyphs
> 
> > and send .svg files! (I use Inkscape in case that's relevant.)
> > Would
> 
> > that help and/or reduce everyone else's work at all?
> 
> 
> Thanks for the offer!  Unfortunately, this doesn't help really help.
> What's really needed would be the following.
> 
> 1. Scans of down-stem flags.  I was browsing scores printed by
>    Petrucci and I could only find up-stem flags, contrary to later
>    printers like Dorico (and Dorico seems to use the existing flag
>    shapes, probably a bit thicker in design).  So maybe they don't
>    exist at all?

Here are some examples from the Superius partbook, in the Gloria of
Josquin's Missa sup. voces musicales [1]


> 
> 2. A scan of a two-flag glyph.  Again, my quick search didn't find a
>    single one.
> 
The semifusa certainly existed at this period as, amongst several
others, Cochlaeus gives an example in his theoretical work
Compendium... cantus figurabilis (1507) at 10v [2], however his glyph
is far less elegant than Petrucci's would be.  On a cursory search, I
haven't found any by Petrucci, except in tablature (where his glyphs
are of course unlike those in his staff notation).  If Petrucci had
semifusae, I would expect them to resemble this:
 (i.e. a "flag-and-a-half" rather than a "two-flag glyph")


HTH
-- Graham

[1] https://imslp.org/wiki/Special:ReverseLookup/267481
[2] http://download.digitale-sammlungen.de/BOOKS/pdf_download.pl?id=bsb00015233


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