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   1. Re: Openmoko Bug #1864: Keyboard needs to have a
      non-predictive mode (Openmoko Public Trac)
   2. Re: Openmoko Bug #1864: Keyboard needs to have a
      non-predictive mode (Openmoko Public Trac)
   3. Re: Openmoko Bug #1864: Keyboard needs to have a
      non-predictive mode (Openmoko Public Trac)
   4. Re: Openmoko Bug #1864: Keyboard needs to have a
      non-predictive mode (Openmoko Public Trac)
   5. Re: Openmoko Bug #1864: Keyboard needs to have a
      non-predictive mode (Openmoko Public Trac)
   6. Re: Openmoko Bug #1752: [Qt-keypad] when enter the passwords,
      it will show up the numbers on the keypad (Openmoko Public Trac)
   7. Openmoko Bug #1866: Tangogps in
      http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Multiverse/ outdated
      (Openmoko Public Trac)
   8. Re: Openmoko Bug #1864: Keyboard needs to have a
      non-predictive mode (Openmoko Public Trac)
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#1864: Keyboard needs to have a non-predictive mode
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    Reporter:  iknowjoseph                   |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  defect                        |       Status:  new           
    Priority:  normal                        |    Milestone:                
   Component:  unknown                       |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  normal                        |   Resolution:                
    Keywords:  2008.8, keyboard, predictive  |    Blockedby:                
Reproducible:  always                        |     Blocking:                
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------
Changes (by zecke):

  * milestone:  Om2008.8 =>


Comment:

 Clearing milestone (internal field)

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1864#comment:3>
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#1864: Keyboard needs to have a non-predictive mode
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------
    Reporter:  iknowjoseph                   |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  defect                        |       Status:  new           
    Priority:  normal                        |    Milestone:                
   Component:  unknown                       |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  normal                        |   Resolution:                
    Keywords:  2008.8, keyboard, predictive  |    Blockedby:                
Reproducible:  always                        |     Blocking:                
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------

Comment(by zecke):

 When pressing and holding a zoom widget comes up and you can select a
 character and write words not in the dictionary. I would label this "non-
 predictive mode" for thumb keyboards.

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1864#comment:4>
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#1864: Keyboard needs to have a non-predictive mode
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------
    Reporter:  iknowjoseph                   |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  defect                        |       Status:  new           
    Priority:  normal                        |    Milestone:                
   Component:  unknown                       |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  normal                        |   Resolution:                
    Keywords:  2008.8, keyboard, predictive  |    Blockedby:                
Reproducible:  always                        |     Blocking:                
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------

Comment(by iknowjoseph):

 This is true, and I have successfully used this mode to enter data.
 However, the extra time it takes to enter characters in this non-
 predictive mode penalises the user for not using the OM default. I can,
 for example, put my SonyEricsson keyboard into non-predictive mode, and
 enter characters without holding the key down for longer than I need to
 when in predictive mode.

 "Holding down" a displayed key on a touch screen is also very unintuitive.

 IMHO this defect is still valid.

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1864#comment:5>
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openmoko trac

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#1864: Keyboard needs to have a non-predictive mode
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------
    Reporter:  iknowjoseph                   |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  defect                        |       Status:  closed        
    Priority:  normal                        |    Milestone:                
   Component:  unknown                       |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  normal                        |   Resolution:  duplicate     
    Keywords:  2008.8, keyboard, predictive  |    Blockedby:                
Reproducible:  always                        |     Blocking:                
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------

Comment(by zecke):

 Replying to [comment:5 iknowjoseph]:
 > This is true, and I have successfully used this mode to enter data.
 However, the extra time it takes to enter characters in this non-
 predictive mode penalises the user for not using the OM default. I can,
 for example, put my SonyEricsson keyboard into non-predictive mode, and
 enter characters without holding the key down for longer than I need to
 when in predictive mode.

 Screenshot of the virtual on screen keyboard would be welcome. I wonder
 how they make the keys big enough that one can easily hit them with the
 average finger size in western cultures.

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1864#comment:7>
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openmoko trac

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#1864: Keyboard needs to have a non-predictive mode
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------
    Reporter:  iknowjoseph                   |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  defect                        |       Status:  closed        
    Priority:  normal                        |    Milestone:                
   Component:  unknown                       |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  normal                        |   Resolution:  duplicate     
    Keywords:  2008.8, keyboard, predictive  |    Blockedby:                
Reproducible:  always                        |     Blocking:                
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------
Changes (by zecke):

  * status:  new => closed
  * resolution:  => duplicate


Comment:

 As it is possible to enter words (even if it needs knowledge how to do
 that and is not easily discoverable) that are not in the dictionary I
 think the initial issue does not exist.

 Further existing keyboard issues:
      #1764 - Request to be able to switch keyboards (e.g. full stylus
 qwertz)
      #1752 - special mode for entering passwords
      #1795 - for missing and wanted keys

 As I do not see that this bug adds anything not already covered I close it
 as duplicate.

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1864#comment:6>
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openmoko trac

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#1752: [Qt-keypad] when enter the passwords, it will show up the numbers on the
keypad
-------------------------+--------------------------------------------------
 Reporter:  wendy_hung   |        Owner:  zecke   
     Type:  enhancement  |       Status:  new     
 Priority:  normal       |    Milestone:  Om2008.9
Component:  Qtopia       |      Version:          
 Severity:  critical     |   Resolution:          
 Keywords:               |    Blockedby:          
 Blocking:               |  
-------------------------+--------------------------------------------------

Comment(by iknowjoseph):

 Please display password characters when entering them into the Openmoko.
 Password security can be provided by moving the phone so others can't see
 it; this is much easier than using a small keyboard to enter your
 passphrase when you can't see if you've made any mistakes.

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1752#comment:7>
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openmoko trac

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#1866: Tangogps in http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Multiverse/ outdated
-------------------------+--------------------------------------------------
 Reporter:  Yorick       |          Owner:  tick                 
     Type:  enhancement  |         Status:  new                  
 Priority:  low          |      Milestone:  Om2008.8             
Component:  Installer    |        Version:  Om2008.8             
 Severity:  minor        |       Keywords:  tangogps ipk outdated
Blockedby:               |   Reproducible:  always               
 Blocking:               |  
-------------------------+--------------------------------------------------
 there is a newer version:
 http://www.tangogps.org/downloads/tangogps_0.9.3-r1_armv4t.ipk

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1866>
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openmoko trac

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#1864: Keyboard needs to have a non-predictive mode
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------
    Reporter:  iknowjoseph                   |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  defect                        |       Status:  closed        
    Priority:  normal                        |    Milestone:                
   Component:  unknown                       |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  normal                        |   Resolution:  duplicate     
    Keywords:  2008.8, keyboard, predictive  |    Blockedby:                
Reproducible:  always                        |     Blocking:                
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------

Comment(by iknowjoseph):

 Replying to [comment:6 zecke]:
 > As it is possible to enter words (even if it needs knowledge how to do
 that and is not easily discoverable) that are not in the dictionary I
 think the initial issue does not exist.
 >
 > Further existing keyboard issues:
 >      #1764 - Request to be able to switch keyboards (e.g. full stylus
 qwertz)
 >      #1752 - special mode for entering passwords
 >      #1795 - for missing and wanted keys
 >
 > As I do not see that this bug adds anything not already covered I close
 it as duplicate.

 Non of those bugs ask for what I have requested: The OM2008.8 keyboard, as
 it is at the moment, but with the added option of selecting a non-
 predictive mode that doesn't overly inconvenience the user. Yes, there are
 currently ways of using the keyboard in a non-predictive way, but it could
 be improved; it doesn't matter whether you prefer to call it an
 enhancement or a defect, it's certainly not a duplicate.

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1864#comment:8>
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