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   1. Re: Openmoko Bug #1728: SMS parser bug? (Openmoko Public Trac)
   2. Re: Openmoko Bug #1864: Keyboard needs to have a
      non-predictive mode (Openmoko Public Trac)
   3. Re: Openmoko Bug #1864: Keyboard needs to have a
      non-predictive mode (Openmoko Public Trac)
   4. Re: Openmoko Bug #1864: Keyboard needs to have a
      non-predictive mode (Openmoko Public Trac)
   5. Re: Openmoko Bug #1864: Keyboard needs to have a
      non-predictive mode (Openmoko Public Trac)
   6. Re: Openmoko Bug #1846: hidd missing from "testing" feed
      (Openmoko Public Trac)
   7. Re: Openmoko Bug #1846: hidd missing from "testing" feed
      (Openmoko Public Trac)
   8. Re: Openmoko Bug #1864: Keyboard needs to have a
      non-predictive mode (Openmoko Public Trac)
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#1728: SMS parser bug?
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    Reporter:  odlg    |        Owner:  tick    
        Type:  defect  |       Status:  assigned
    Priority:  high    |    Milestone:          
   Component:  Qtopia  |      Version:  Om2008.8
    Severity:  major   |   Resolution:          
    Keywords:          |    Blockedby:          
Reproducible:          |     Blocking:          
-----------------------+----------------------------------------------------
Changes (by tick):

  * status:  in_testing => assigned


Comment:

 It's not in image yet, wait it in image then switch to in_testing

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1728#comment:20>
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#1864: Keyboard needs to have a non-predictive mode
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    Reporter:  iknowjoseph                   |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  defect                        |       Status:  closed        
    Priority:  normal                        |    Milestone:                
   Component:  unknown                       |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  normal                        |   Resolution:  duplicate     
    Keywords:  2008.8, keyboard, predictive  |    Blockedby:                
Reproducible:  always                        |     Blocking:                
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------

Comment(by zecke):

 I think the current keyboard without prediction and zooming will not be
 usable with a finger. How would you solve that? Make the keyboard widget
 bigger so one differentiate between the characters (this would mean having
 a distance between the keys in pixel that is bigger than the average
 finger size)?

 I believe that just turning off the prediction will not help anyone. The
 only thing I can think of is to make the distance between the keys bigger
 than the finger size. This would also mean to break the board layout as
 not all keys fit in one line. So how exactly is that solved by your
 current phone?



 Feel free to reopen the bug.

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1864#comment:9>
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#1864: Keyboard needs to have a non-predictive mode
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------
    Reporter:  iknowjoseph                   |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  defect                        |       Status:  new           
    Priority:  normal                        |    Milestone:                
   Component:  unknown                       |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  normal                        |   Resolution:                
    Keywords:  2008.8, keyboard, predictive  |    Blockedby:                
Reproducible:  always                        |     Blocking:                
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------
Changes (by zecke):

  * milestone:  Om2008.8 =>


Comment:

 Clearing milestone (internal field)

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1864#comment:3>
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#1864: Keyboard needs to have a non-predictive mode
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------
    Reporter:  iknowjoseph                   |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  defect                        |       Status:  new           
    Priority:  normal                        |    Milestone:                
   Component:  unknown                       |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  normal                        |   Resolution:                
    Keywords:  2008.8, keyboard, predictive  |    Blockedby:                
Reproducible:  always                        |     Blocking:                
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------

Comment(by zecke):

 When pressing and holding a zoom widget comes up and you can select a
 character and write words not in the dictionary. I would label this "non-
 predictive mode" for thumb keyboards.

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1864#comment:4>
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#1864: Keyboard needs to have a non-predictive mode
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------
    Reporter:  iknowjoseph                   |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  defect                        |       Status:  closed        
    Priority:  normal                        |    Milestone:                
   Component:  unknown                       |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  normal                        |   Resolution:  duplicate     
    Keywords:  2008.8, keyboard, predictive  |    Blockedby:                
Reproducible:  always                        |     Blocking:                
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------

Comment(by iknowjoseph):

 Replying to [comment:9 zecke]:
 > I believe that just turning off the prediction will not help anyone.

 On this point then we disagree. I have no problem with the spacing of the
 keys on the keyboard, but if I hit "w" three times I end up with "was". If
 I could turn off the predictive input I could have "www" as planned; the
 keyboard is otherwise quite usable and very attractive.

 My current SonyEricsson uses a regular physical keypad with a predictive-
 and non-predictive text mode. Selecting the non-predictive mode allows me
 to insert characters without holding the button down for an extended
 period of time.

 I am reluctant to reopen the bug if it's simply going to become another
 "works for me" issue.

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1864#comment:10>
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#1846: hidd missing from "testing" feed
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    Reporter:  Mercury  |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  defect   |       Status:  new           
    Priority:  normal   |    Milestone:                
   Component:  unknown  |      Version:                
    Severity:  normal   |   Resolution:                
    Keywords:           |    Blockedby:                
Reproducible:           |     Blocking:                
------------------------+---------------------------------------------------

Comment(by Mercury):

 Thanks :)  That helped a lot.  Here's how I got it working:

 I followed the instructions here to bond the device (otherwise referred to
 as 'pairing'), http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/HOWTO/Bonding.  And after
 bonding was complete, while the light was still blinking, I followed the
 instructions here, http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/HOWTO/InputDevices to
 register the keyboard as an input device.

 Then I got the error
 'input[1555]: Authorization denied: Authorization agent does not exist'
 When I tried to use the keyboard (apparantly once it's bonded and
 registered as a keyboard, the keyboard will attempt to automatically
 connect to the device it's bonded to whenever you hit a key)

 I fixed it with this command:
 dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=org.bluez
 /org/bluez/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter.SetTrusted string:AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF

 And now it works ^.^  Mostly :(  I have a new problem.

 When I press some keys, it works, when I press other keys, it doesn't.  I
 don't think it's related to the new way of bluez keyboard input though,
 because I grabbed an old copy of hidd and tried that and it had identical
 behaviour.  This is very reminiscent of the problem where some keys would
 work and others would not when you would try to enter a phone number.  Has
 that problem been identified?

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1846#comment:3>
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--- Begin Message ---
#1846: hidd missing from "testing" feed
------------------------+---------------------------------------------------
    Reporter:  Mercury  |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  defect   |       Status:  new           
    Priority:  normal   |    Milestone:                
   Component:  unknown  |      Version:                
    Severity:  normal   |   Resolution:                
    Keywords:           |    Blockedby:                
Reproducible:           |     Blocking:                
------------------------+---------------------------------------------------

Comment(by Mercury):

 Actually, apparently, the problem with some keys appearing and some keys
 not appearing (for example, 'H' doesn't work, but 'h' does.) only happens
 on the console.  In X, nothing comes up at all!

 I've also noticed the on screen keyboard doesn't come up when my bluetooth
 keyboard is connected.  Nice.  I like that.  But, perhaps this issue is
 somehow related?  I had no problem with bluetooth keyboards before I
 grabbed the testing tree, but I also still had the on screen keyboard
 whether or not I had my bluetooth keyboard connected.

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1846#comment:4>
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--- Begin Message ---
#1864: Keyboard needs to have a non-predictive mode
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------
    Reporter:  iknowjoseph                   |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  defect                        |       Status:  closed        
    Priority:  normal                        |    Milestone:                
   Component:  unknown                       |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  normal                        |   Resolution:  duplicate     
    Keywords:  2008.8, keyboard, predictive  |    Blockedby:                
Reproducible:  always                        |     Blocking:                
---------------------------------------------+------------------------------

Comment(by Yorick):

 Replying to [comment:9 zecke]:
 > I think the current keyboard without prediction and zooming will not be
 usable with a finger. How would you solve that? Make the keyboard widget
 bigger so one differentiate between the characters (this would mean having
 a distance between the keys in pixel that is bigger than the average
 finger size)?
 >
 > I believe that just turning off the prediction will not help anyone. The
 only thing I can think of is to make the distance between the keys bigger
 than the finger size. This would also mean to break the board layout as
 not all keys fit in one line. So how exactly is that solved by your
 current phone?
 >
 >
 >
 > Feel free to reopen the bug.

 Are you sure it would not be usable Zecke? I used raster's Full Qwerty
 keyboard, with my fingers and it works great! The keys are much closer
 together on that keboard than on the predictive one...

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1864#comment:11>
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