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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Openmoko Bug #1864: Keyboard needs to have a
      non-predictive mode (Openmoko Public Trac)
   2. Re: Openmoko Bug #1728: SMS parser bug? (Openmoko Public Trac)
   3. Re: Openmoko Bug #1864: Keyboard needs to have a
      non-predictive mode (Openmoko Public Trac)
   4. Re: Openmoko Bug #1267: Strong echo when calling a Neo from
      another   phone (Openmoko Public Trac)
   5. Re: Openmoko Bug #1864: Keyboard needs to have a
      non-predictive mode (Openmoko Public Trac)
   6. Re: Openmoko Bug #1728: SMS parser bug? (Openmoko Public Trac)
   7. Re: Openmoko Bug #1697: [Battery] No Alert message when
      battery is low (Openmoko Public Trac)
   8. Re: Openmoko Bug #1728: SMS parser bug? (Openmoko Public Trac)
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#1864: Keyboard needs to have a non-predictive mode
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    Reporter:  iknowjoseph                       |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  defect                            |       Status:  reopened      
    Priority:  normal                            |    Milestone:                
   Component:  unknown                           |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  normal                            |   Resolution:                
    Keywords:  2008.8, keyboard, predictive, pm  |    Blockedby:                
Reproducible:  always                            |     Blocking:                
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Changes (by zecke):

  * status:  closed => reopened
  * resolution:  duplicate =>


Comment:

 Summary (from my point of view):
     - One wants to be able to switch keyboard implementations fast
 (qwertz, pickboard, chinese)
     - One wants to be able to change "modes" fast (prediction on and off)

 Discussion:

    - Fast probably means one to two clicks. Either use a hardware key or
 have it easily accessible in the decoration.

    - Does mode vs. keyboard make sense? For the prediction case it might
 not. In Opie we had multikeys which could load any layout and then a per
 keyboard config made sense. Personally I would go for "keyboards" and have
 per keyboard configs with the assumption that keyboard switching is fast
 and config is only used once in a while.

 A lot of this is probably duplicate to the "how to switch keyboard
 discussion"

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1864#comment:21>
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openmoko trac

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--- Begin Message ---
#1728: SMS parser bug?
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    Reporter:  odlg    |        Owner:  tick      
        Type:  defect  |       Status:  in_testing
    Priority:  high    |    Milestone:            
   Component:  Qtopia  |      Version:  Om2008.8  
    Severity:  major   |   Resolution:            
    Keywords:          |    Blockedby:            
Reproducible:          |     Blocking:            
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Comment(by zecke):

 Sorry, I'm only on a GPRS line and managed to upload the packages to
 om2008.8-testing. Could you please test that? You should get
 4.3.2+git413+13101ab6ddaec380871ae8021a92140af526c4df-r39.1 as version for
 Qtopia.

-- 
Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1728#comment:24>
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openmoko trac

--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
#1864: Keyboard needs to have a non-predictive mode
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    Reporter:  iknowjoseph                       |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  defect                            |       Status:  reopened      
    Priority:  normal                            |    Milestone:                
   Component:  unknown                           |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  normal                            |   Resolution:                
    Keywords:  2008.8, keyboard, predictive, pm  |    Blockedby:                
Reproducible:  always                            |     Blocking:                
-------------------------------------------------+--------------------------

Comment(by iknowjoseph):

 Replying to [comment:21 zecke]:
 > Summary (from my point of view):
 >     - One wants to be able to switch keyboard implementations fast
 (qwertz, pickboard, chinese)
 >     - One wants to be able to change "modes" fast (prediction on and
 off)
 >
 > Discussion:
 >
 >    - Fast probably means one to two clicks. Either use a hardware key or
 have it easily accessible in the decoration.
 >
 >    - Does mode vs. keyboard make sense? For the prediction case it might
 not. In Opie we had multikeys which could load any layout and then a per
 keyboard config made sense. Personally I would go for "keyboards" and have
 per keyboard configs with the assumption that keyboard switching is fast
 and config is only used once in a while.
 >
 > A lot of this is probably duplicate to the "how to switch keyboard
 discussion"

 This all sounds good.

 I like flicking the keyboard up to change the mode it's in. How about
 flicking it up to a non-predictive mode? Perhaps differentiated from the
 predictive keyboard by colouring the keys differently?

 Thanks for re-opening the ticket; I tried to do the same myself but lacked
 the permissions to do so.

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1864#comment:22>
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openmoko trac

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--- Begin Message ---
#1267: Strong echo when calling a Neo from another phone
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 Reporter:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |        Owner:  sean_chiang
     Type:  defect             |       Status:  assigned   
 Priority:  high               |    Milestone:             
Component:  Audio              |      Version:  unspecified
 Severity:  normal             |   Resolution:             
 Keywords:  audio, echo        |    Blockedby:             
 Blocking:                     |  
-------------------------------+--------------------------------------------

Comment(by [EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 I'd like to know the development roadmap regarding an echo cancellation
 module for the Neo. The speex AEC seems to be quite nice and may be useful
 for a little copy and paste. Is someone from OM Inc. working on the
 subject? I may be able to contribute to a solution, if someone is willing
 to provide some guidance (implementation as an ALSA plugin, or as a sound
 daemon plugin?).

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Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1267#comment:12>
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openmoko trac

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--- Begin Message ---
#1864: Keyboard needs to have a non-predictive mode
-------------------------------------------------+--------------------------
    Reporter:  iknowjoseph                       |        Owner:  openmoko-devel
        Type:  defect                            |       Status:  reopened      
    Priority:  normal                            |    Milestone:                
   Component:  unknown                           |      Version:  Om2008.8      
    Severity:  normal                            |   Resolution:                
    Keywords:  2008.8, keyboard, predictive, pm  |    Blockedby:                
Reproducible:  always                            |     Blocking:                
-------------------------------------------------+--------------------------

Comment(by Yorick):

 That seems to sum it up nicely zecke.

 For predictive input it might also be nice to be able to add the word to
 the wordbook from within the keyboard. For example: when typing a word on
 the default kb by "pressing and holding" the letters, a button could
 appear to add the resulting word to the wordbook.

 I have *personally* a preference for mode over keyboard changing (e.g. a
 button to turn predictive on an off) this will maybe make it more easy to
 add the words to the dictionary while typing.


 Thank you once more for your time and effort.

-- 
Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1864#comment:23>
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openmoko trac

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--- Begin Message ---
#1728: SMS parser bug?
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    Reporter:  odlg    |        Owner:  tick      
        Type:  defect  |       Status:  in_testing
    Priority:  high    |    Milestone:            
   Component:  Qtopia  |      Version:  Om2008.8  
    Severity:  major   |   Resolution:            
    Keywords:          |    Blockedby:            
Reproducible:          |     Blocking:            
-----------------------+----------------------------------------------------

Comment(by odlg):

 OK, that seems to help, new SMS's are shown correct, old SMS's seems to be
 a mix of correctly shown SMS's and non-correct.

-- 
Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1728#comment:25>
docs.openmoko.org <http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/>
openmoko trac

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--- Begin Message ---
#1697: [Battery] No Alert message when battery is low
----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------
    Reporter:  regina_kim   |        Owner:  raster    
        Type:  enhancement  |       Status:  in_testing
    Priority:  high         |    Milestone:  Om2008.9  
   Component:  E - Illume   |      Version:            
    Severity:  minor        |   Resolution:            
    Keywords:  pm           |    Blockedby:            
Reproducible:               |     Blocking:            
----------------------------+-----------------------------------------------

Comment(by raster):

 i assumed the battery going red was the simple solution/addressing of
 this?

-- 
Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1697#comment:16>
docs.openmoko.org <http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/>
openmoko trac

--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message ---
#1728: SMS parser bug?
-----------------------+----------------------------------------------------
    Reporter:  odlg    |        Owner:  tick      
        Type:  defect  |       Status:  in_testing
    Priority:  high    |    Milestone:            
   Component:  Qtopia  |      Version:  Om2008.8  
    Severity:  major   |   Resolution:            
    Keywords:          |    Blockedby:            
Reproducible:          |     Blocking:            
-----------------------+----------------------------------------------------

Comment(by odlg):

 OK, that seems to help, new SMS's are shown correct, old SMS's seems to be
 a mix of correctly shown SMS's and non-correct.

-- 
Ticket URL: <https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1728#comment:25>
docs.openmoko.org <http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/>
openmoko trac

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