Good question... I'll explore that possibility, warn that no plugs are
available but build as much as possible kind of thing, right?

-kto

Ted Neward wrote:
No promises heard, no expectations understood. :-)

I personally have a hard time following the argument that says that "because
we put them into our source repository, we're asserting some kind of legal
license ownership" or something, but hey, I'm not a lawyer, either. :-/

Here's a Really Dumb Question(TM): Is it possible (and then, is it
practical) to create a build that doesn't use any of the binary plugs stuff?
A stripped-down, JVM-and-core-classes-only kind of build that just uses the
core stuff that's out in the Sun-blessed open source domain? (I haven't
found that I cared about any of the binary plugs-related stuff yet, so...)

Ted Neward
Java, .NET, XML Services
Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing
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Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:12 PM
To: Ted Neward
Cc: 'Christian Thalinger'; [email protected]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Makefile patch needed when building the b20 OpenJDK source
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I would love for these binary plugs to go away, and second best, make
them trivially available, but we are in legal territory here.
I will bring up this issue and see if we can't do what you suggest,
but I am not a lawyer, no promises.

They are a royal pain, no argument there.

-kto

Ted Neward wrote:
If they're going to change with every build release, then it's even
MORE
important to make sure they're in some kind of source repository.
Otherwise,
the whole point of keeping it in a source-code control repository
(rollbacks, check out to a label, and so on) goes completely out the
window
when I can't get the corresponding binary plugs.

I can't be the only one who grew up under the rule of source control
that
states, "Everything necessary to create a build must be stored in the
source
repository", can I?

Ted Neward
Java, .NET, XML Services
Consulting, Teaching, Speaking, Writing
http://www.tedneward.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Thalinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:03 AM
To: Ted Neward
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: Makefile patch needed when building the b20 OpenJDK
source
drop

On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 23:40 -0700, Ted Neward wrote:
If they can't rest in the same repository, then perhaps a different
repository?

I'm just looking to be able to do a "svn up" (or its Mercurial
equivalent)
and know that I've got everything I need to build the OpenJDK; it's
a
lot
more tedious to "svn up" then fetch the latest binary plugs
(particularly
since I'm betting they're not going to change as frequently as the
source
does), and only then do a build.
That's wrong.  Every source build has it's matching binary plug.
See:
http://download.java.net/openjdk/jdk7/

- twisti

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