> On Jun 4, 2018, at 4:32 PM, Jonathan Gibbons <jonathan.gibb...@oracle.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 06/02/2018 12:20 AM, Alan Bateman wrote:
>> On 02/06/2018 08:05, Aleksey Shipilev wrote:
>>> :
>>> Unfortunately, in the age of containers, distribution size matters. It 
>>> makes the whole sense to ship
>>> JRE in Docker containers to provide the execution environment for the upper 
>>> layers. Remember, hardly
>>> any application is fully modularized and/or uses jlink/jimage way of 
>>> distribution.
>>> 
>>> Also, products that ship with their own OpenJDK distribution (e.g. 
>>> JetBrains IDEs) do ship with
>>> jres, which cuts down their distribution sizes.
>>> 
>>> Cost savings for having JRE only are significant, as can be observed with 
>>> current bundles:
>>> 
>>>  178M Jun  2 08:53 jdk-11-internal+0_linux-x64_bin.tar.gz
>>>   38M Jun  2 08:53 jre-11-internal+0_linux-x64_bin.tar.gz
>>> 
>>> Therefore, I believe removing jre is too disruptive, at least for 11, at 
>>> least until we see that the
>>> whole jlink/jimage thing really works out in the wider Java ecosystem and 
>>> JREs are really abandoned.
>> I don't disagree with the significance of what has been proposed here. 
>> However, just to point out that creating what used to know as the JRE is one 
>> `jlink` command. There is no requirement for the application or libraries 
>> using that run-time be developed as modules. Also incorporate generating of 
>> JDK run-time images into the build when working with containers is very 
>> useful as you get fine control on which modules to include.
>> 
>> -Alan
>> 
> 
> If it is that easy to generate a JRE image, why not provide a target to 
> create such an image, that invokes that one command?  The target need not be 
> part of the default build, but would be available for those that want to 
> build it.

I could live with a jlink option to create a JRE.  The problem is that the list 
of modules required to produce a
compatible JRE is not documented anywhere.  I tried fishing the list out of the 
build makefile but it’s not trivial.  I ended
up running “jimage list module | grep Module: on a JDK 10 JRE to get the list.

Bob.


> 
> -- Jon

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