> We did something similar at Log4j to publish releases (I did not do
that set up but I do help on the project) so that a release manager
can use GitHub to publish releases instead of doing it on hardware
they control.

Cool :)

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 2:19 PM Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We did something similar at Log4j to publish releases (I did not do
> that set up but I do help on the project) so that a release manager
> can use GitHub to publish releases instead of doing it on hardware
> they control.
>
> Gary
>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 8:10 AM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >
> > Unless I hear otherwise, I **assume** there are no big reasons against
> > this. My plan is that I will add a Github Action (manually triggered,
> > limited to release managers only) which will NOT build the packages, but
> it
> > will download them from `downloads.apache.org` (or dist.apache.org for
> RC
> > packages) and publish them to PyPI. This should be really "safe" and will
> > remove the needs for us to keep local pypi keys to upload the packages.
> >
> > This will require repo reconfiguration, so I will have to - likely -
> open a
> > JIRA ticket to INFRA - once I do it, I will be happy to describe the
> steps
> > for all other projects that upload packages to PyPI and use GitHub.
> >
> > Does that make sense?
> >
> > J.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 12:14 PM Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >> My only question is what do the users see in terms of the verified
> > >> identity that performed the release. Does it still appear to have come
> > >> from the individual maintainer? The ASF? Somewhere else? I'd only be
> > >> concerned if the answer was "somewhere else".
> > >>
> > >
> > > Currently users do not see anything. There was a discussion on Python's
> > > discord about exposing Trusted Published information in PyPI
> > >
> https://discuss.python.org/t/pre-pep-exposing-trusted-publisher-provenance-on-pypi/42337
> > > as a "pre-PEP discussion". This resulted in Draft PEP 740 -
> > >
> https://discuss.python.org/t/pep-740-index-support-for-digital-attestations/44498
> > > - where you will be able to upload multiple attestations when you
> publish
> > > your packages. So the thinking is that you can have multiple
> attestations
> > > of provenance of your package when you upload it to PyPI and a trusted
> > > publisher will be just one of them. So in our case we could also add
> our
> > > own signatures when we publish., This is still draft and we will have a
> > > chance of influencing the direction, I am sure. Generally Michael and
> the
> > > whole security team are on the spree of onboarding more and more
> projects
> > > to use trusted publishers and they are planning to discuss and
> implemented
> > > more security/provenance features when they reach critical mass (from
> the
> > > discussions I had - I believe they are doing very well there - and
> having a
> > > stories where prominent projects are on-board is going to help with
> that as
> > > well.
> > >
> > > J.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Mark
> > >>
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