This is an excellent thread to rat hole.  Tnx to all commenters.

> On Jul 30, 2020, at 5:15 PM, john Parmalee via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
> 
> An 811 is a tube from the 40s, I recall a Western Electric KW broadcast  
> transmitter that used a pair to modulate a pair.  It was a brute.
>  
> To my knowledge tube testers were not intended to test transmitter 
> tubes.maybe a TV fly back tube The way to test them is in a transmitter 
> noting the watts in and watts out. As a tube ages the filament may loose it's 
> emission. some times boosting the fulfillment a volt or two will squeeze a 
> little more life out of them,  I used to work with a 50KW TV transmitter, a 
> new tube was under voltage on the filament and when it was finished a year or 
> so later it would be 10 to 15% over specs.
> Another problem is gas that boils out of the plate, Carbon in this case.  The 
> Thoriated tungsten filament is designed to absorb gas. just leaving the 
> filaments on for a week or so might remove gas.  Sometimes you can see the 
> gas in the tube as a neon like flicker,
>  
> The following  test is not for those do not know how to work with  with high 
> voltage, one hand in the pocket, stand back and more, they should run from my 
> advice about testing with 700 volts or so.
>  
> To test a tube you might use a 700 volt supply and adjust it to the value in 
> the specifications  First apply bias to the grid using a ma meter to monitor  
> both plate and grid. More negative  bias means less plate current.  This is a 
> DC test that does not account for what RF is asking the tube to do. Some 
> times a tube was unuseable in the final but would work ok for a while as a 
> modulator.
>  
> K5VGM WI2XLJ
> In a message dated 7/29/2020 2:15:55 PM Central Standard Time, 
> bvarc@bvarc.org writes:
>  
> John, Fondren EPO's tube tester hasn't worked for years.  They'd love to have 
> someone fix it - nice project for anyone intersted - call Chris.
>  
> Gus, KG5OFB
> 
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 9:02 AM John Mechura via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> 
> wrote:
> Greetings,
>  
> Unfortunately my tube tester is too new to test this tube.  I would recommend 
> contacting Chris at EPO, Electronic Parts Outlet, to ask him if his tube 
> checker can test this tube; if it is listed on his chart.  He has a stand-up 
> tube tester such as would have been at drug stores of my youth. 
>  
> The 811 is a triode, utilizing a thoriated tungsten filament as a cathode.  
> As Rick suggests, an ohm meter check of the filament / heater should test for 
> continuity.  Then check for shorts between filament, grid and plate, there 
> should not be any.  Pins 1 and 4 are the filaments.  Pin 2 is unused.  Pin 3 
> is the grid and the plate is on top.  Look and see if the plate shows signs 
> of discoloration or overheating.  If the silver getter coating inside the 
> glass is silver and not white then the tube is holding a vacuum still. 
>  
> The specs are here:
> www.radiotechnika.hu/images/811A.pdf 
>  
> My e-mail is:
> john.mech...@gmail.com
>  
> 73
>  
> John, KI5HOC
>  
>  
>  
> 
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 9:42 PM Rick Hiller <rickhille...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Couldn't you simply just measure pin to pin and compare one tube to the 
> others?   Find the odd guy(s) out that way.   Then, stick them, one by one, 
> in the "tube testers"  from Ameritron, the 811 or 811H.  HI
>  
> John, HOC, is the tube guy.....he will know....73...RH
> 
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 9:18 PM Jimmy Vance via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
> One of the guys in KARS needs to test a few 811's, does anyone have a 
> tester capable of testing these?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> --jv
> na5d
> 
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