It is really hard to keep up with technology these days. I am holding out for 
an anti-matter reactor.
Mark
N5PRD

> On Apr 5, 2021, at 1:39 PM, Keith Dutson via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
> 
> Now THAT is funny! <grin>
> 
> On Monday, April 5, 2021, 10:42:37 AM CDT, Mike Hardwick via BVARC 
> <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> All of this gasoline stuff and sizing problems are nothing but a headache 
> when dealing with any generator. Get one of these and it will take care of 
> all of those issues (you can also power the most of your street at well)!
> 
> https://www.wired.com/2007/12/toshibas-home-n/ 
> <https://www.wired.com/2007/12/toshibas-home-n/>
> 
> You will have plenty of power for that Alpha amp now!
> 
> Mike
> N5VCX
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, April 5, 2021, 09:13:50 AM CDT, JP Pritchard via BVARC 
> <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> I agree with you Ron about the hassle of a DIY solution, but for those who 
> might feel confident about meeting that challenge, but hesitant to take on a 
> 10 to 20 thousand dollar investment in a "whole house" generator, here's a 
> less expensive plan: Install a single room heat pump style air conditioner, 
> and add a small fridge and microwave. Then power it with a small moveable 
> generator. That set up would keep you warm or cool, keep the lights in your 
> one room going and power for your fridge, microwave and TV. There would be a 
> cost, but not nearly what you'd face with the Generac solution.
>  
> JP (Richard) K5JPP
>> On 04/05/2021 8:56 AM k5hm.ron--- via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> Yes, the solution N5PRD describes  was possible. We had a portable generator 
>> before we purchased the Generac solution.
>> 
>>  
>> At our age which I am guessing is more advanced, the job of pulling out the 
>> generator from the garage, hooking it up, testing it periodically, having 
>> some type of feed through connection from the generator to the fan and other 
>> things you want to power like the refrigerator and the upright freezer, 
>> storing and hunting around for fuel, going outside to refuel the generator 
>> in the cold dark night were also considerations
>> 
>>  
>> So I opted for the more automated solution. It is permanently installed by 
>> licensed plumbers and electricians, self-testing, automatically switches on 
>> whenever the utility power goes out. I have a seven year warranty on it and 
>> the maintenance plan too.
>> 
>>  
>> And I also have the satisfaction of knowing that my wife and family are also 
>> protected from electrical failures after I pass on.   
>> 
>>  
>> 73,
>> 
>> Ron, K5HM
>> 
>> k5hm....@gmail.com <mailto:k5hm....@gmail.com>
>> www.qrz.com/db/k5hm <http://www.qrz.com/db/k5hm>
>> <image001.jpg><image002.jpg><image003.jpg>
>> 
>>         Excelsior!
>> 
>>  
>> From: BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> On Behalf Of Mark Brantana via BVARC
>> Sent: Sunday, April 4, 2021 11:35 PM
>> To: kk...@arrl.net; BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <bvarc@bvarc.org>
>> Cc: Mark Brantana <n5...@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [BVARC] A Thank You to John Stratton, ARRL West Gulf Division 
>> Director
>> 
>>  
>> I just have to wonder, how Generac can justify the cost of their generator. 
>> That is what does not add up for me.
>> 
>> 4kW = $250 at Home Depot
>> 
>> 17kW=$10,000 from Generac
>> 
>>  
>> Looking at the chart below; from Hiller, if you want A/C included, it is 
>> going to take that much power. 
>> 
>>  
>> If this is not critical, there another option could be considered:
>> 
>>  
>> A whole-house unit would be nice to have, but a Generac would cost about 
>> $120+/mo for four years. The small 4kW portable generator I bought would be 
>> paid for in about 2 months at that rate. 
>> 
>>  
>> If you have gas heat, you can run the fan with the smaller unit. In this 
>> option you can buy all the emergency generating power you need for the cost 
>> of the 4kW generator I bought at Home Depot for around $250.  Add a SPDT 
>> switch to the fan and wiring for around $100 and the total cost is about 
>> $350.
>> 
>>  
>> It does not have to be Generac or nothing. Even if I had the cash, I don’t 
>> know if I could justify the very high $/kW. I would prefer a few more 
>> vacations.
>> 
>>  
>> I would have been very comfortable if I had just been able to run the heater 
>> fan.
>> 
>>  
>> Mark
>> 
>> N5PRD
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 4, 2021, at 8:11 PM, Bruce via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org 
>> <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org>> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> We had our Generac whole house generator installed in August, 2020. Our 
>> house is all electric. Shortly after, someone cut down a tree about a 1/2 
>> mile from us, it fell on a utility pole knocking out power to our entire 
>> street for 8 hours. The generator was great during that summer heat. Then 
>> came the cold of February and it worked great for 4 days. The neighbors on 
>> both sides of me and behind me all have generators. The $10,000 investment 
>> will never be recovered however, having power is wonderful. In fact, it cost 
>> me about $1.25 an hour in natural gas to run the generator. Could not be 
>> more pleased. 
>> 
>> For those getting a generator, if you go after a Generac, be sure to watch 
>> their website for warranty specials. I have a 10-year warranty plus the 
>> first year onsite service. Paid my dealer for 5 years of onsite above that. 
>> Changing the oil is a piece of cake as I had to do it during the cold. Every 
>> 25 hours of run time. I bought 6 filters and a bunch of 5W30 synthetic oil 
>> to do it during an emergency when the dealer could not come out. Takes about 
>> 10 minutes to change it. 
>> 
>> Enjoy your generator. 
>> 
>> 73...bruce
>> 
>> On 4/4/2021 7:57 PM, k5hm.ron--- via BVARC wrote:
>> 
>> For those of you who don’t know John, I met him when he was the Division 
>> Vice Director.  He is very active in the ARRL and a great advocate for hams 
>> in Texas. He has been a frequent presenter at our Ham Fest and club 
>> meetings.   He knows his way around Texas politicians too.   I’ve never had 
>> much use for lawyers but John is the exception. Perhaps because like me, he 
>> is also an engineer.  
>> 
>>  
>> Dear John,
>> 
>>  
>> I wanted to thank you for your persistence in guiding the Texas legislature 
>> to pass recent legislation regarding HOA’s preventing the installation of 
>> standby generators.  
>> 
>>  
>> During the recent  Texas freeze my XYL and I were without power for 4 days 
>> We existed by camping out in our family room with the cats and the gas 
>> fireplace and lots of flashlight batteries.  Fortunately, we have a gas 
>> stovetop, so we were able to prepare food.  When it was over, I vowed, we 
>> would not have to live without heating and AC winter or summer.  We signed 
>> with a local dealer and hopefully we will have the standby system installed 
>> before the 2021 hurricane season begins. 
>> 
>>  
>> While we were going through the paper work with the company rep, he showed 
>> us a suggested letter we could send to our HOA that stated
>> 
>> “I  understand it is my responsibility to obtain all HOA approvals for my 
>> whole house generator system. I acknowledge Quality Generators cannot act on 
>> my behalf in dealings with my HOA.”
>> 
>>  
>> It was then I remembered John talking about his legislation regarding this 
>> problem.  So I Googled it.  There it was in black and white. Texas Property 
>> Code Section 202.019. I
>> 
>>  
>> It reads: Except as provided by this section, a property owners' association 
>> may not adopt or enforce a dedicatory instrument provision that prohibits, 
>> restricts, or has the effect of prohibiting or restricting an owner from 
>> owning, operating, installing, or maintaining a permanently installed 
>> standby electric generator.
>> 
>>  
>> Thanks again John.  
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Ron, K5HM
>> 
>> k5hm....@gmail.com <mailto:k5hm....@gmail.com>
>> www.qrz.com/db/k5hm <http://www.qrz.com/db/k5hm>
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>>         Excelsior!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
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