FYI – To possibly end the “exert opinions,” I would like to say THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE VIDEO.
It was quite entertaining, and I did get a laugh out of it. NO matter the official rules, it was quite the story. 😊👍😎 Oh, and GO NAVY…. Even though the Navy jet was a bit slower… LOL Lloyd F. Coker KI5OYC Email: <mailto:lloy...@sbcglobal.net> lloy...@sbcglobal.net Cypress, Texas 77429 From: BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> On Behalf Of Mike Hardwick via BVARC Sent: Friday, April 7, 2023 09:00 To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <bvarc@bvarc.org> Cc: Mike Hardwick <n5...@att.net>; Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN <ka8...@ka8kpn.org> Subject: Re: [BVARC] SR-71 Blackbird Found this on YouTube. Seems military pilots do this on a regular basis for training. https://youtu.be/K4HAiieUQHU Mike Hardwick. On Apr 7, 2023, at 7:38 AM, Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote: I'm sorry, WHAT? Look, I've never been a military pilot, but I've been a civil pilot for like 35 years. I have observed, like up close and personal-like, military aircraft on military missions landing and doing other operations at civil airports. As I said, it happens all the time. In fact, civil pilots communicate with military air controllers all the time in the process of doing low approaches to airbases, although actually landing at a military base is generally not done except in an emergency because of all the permissions you need to get in order to take off again. The SR-71 has been flown to airshows, (e.g. "Oshkosh" 1989) although the versions of the "LA speed check" story that I recall imply that this particular mission was a training/proficiency flight not flying to or from an airshow. During cruise an SR-71 does not normally talk to air traffic control because the requirement to do so ends at a pressure altitude of 60,000 feet (or "flight level 600") and it flies so fast that the guy in back would have no time to do anything but tune the radios, but VFR pilots can request services from an ARTCC and they will be handled on a "workload available" basis. Since I don't know that I can convince you, maybe we should just end this conversation here. I'll refrain from commenting further if I don't have any additional thing to add. On 4/7/23 06:08, Keith Dutson via BVARC wrote: Let me re-phrase that. Military personnel are not allowed these communications. Military aircraft being flown on non-military missions are normally piloted by civilians. For example, once at Hooks airport there were several Osprey aircraft that landed. These planes were being delivered to a military base. One key point that the YouTube story is fake is that an SR-71 landed at an air show. If you learn more about this particular plane, you will find that it leaks fuel on the flight line, which requires special support. Plus, a special starter is required to get the engines fired up. At Beale, each plane was assigned a ground support team of about 200 people for support. This is why the SR-71 was stationed at only one air base in the USA. I learned this from a publication provided by the USAF National Museum, of which I am a Friends member. On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 12:35:07 AM CDT, Rick Wannall via BVARC <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: >> Military aircraft talk to the same air traffic controllers as everybody else >> does. Thank you. RW From: BVARC <mailto:bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> On Behalf Of Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN via BVARC Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 22:01 To: Keith Dutson via BVARC <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> <bvarc@bvarc.org> Cc: Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN <mailto:ka8...@ka8kpn.org> <ka8...@ka8kpn.org> Subject: Re: [BVARC] SR-71 Blackbird Not at all true. Military aircraft talk to the same air traffic controllers as everybody else does. There's no other way to integrate them in to the stream of air traffic, and military aircraft use civil airports all the time. On 4/6/23 21:21, Keith Dutson via BVARC wrote: Cute story, but totally contrived. Military aircraft are not allowed to communicate with non-military stations. 73, Keith NM5G On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 04:57:56 PM CDT, Dwayne Jones via BVARC <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: Yes LA speed story is funny too. Dwayne KB5YTA On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 3:03 PM Douglas Kimpel via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote: Have you heard this one? (28) The LA Speed Story (2020) - YouTube <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3xaF1sT90U> Douglas Kimpel Chief Engineer KKHT, KNTH Houston,Texas 713-260-6129 Office 713-206-2146 Cell From: BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> > On Behalf Of mark janzer via BVARC Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2023 1:45 PM To: BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > Cc: mark janzer <k5...@yahoo.com <mailto:k5...@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [BVARC] SR-71 Blackbird Now that's funny. Thanks for sharing... On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 11:23:02 AM CDT, Dwayne Jones via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org <mailto:bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote: Nice little video about a SR-71 Blackbird buzzing the tower near his air base. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTJYNq4GQAE <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTJYNq4GQAE&ab_channel=TAOFLEDERMAUS> &ab_channel=TAOFLEDERMAUS Dwayne KB5YTA ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org <mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org <mailto:BVARC@bvarcorg> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org <mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org <mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org <mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org <mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ ________________________________________________ Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club BVARC mailing list BVARC@bvarc.org <mailto:BVARC@bvarc.org> http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org Publicly available archives are available here: https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/
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