Navy all the way. Mike KI5UBL 73 On Fri, Apr 7, 2023, 5:35 PM Lloyd Coker KI5OYC via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote:
> FYI – To possibly end the “exert opinions,” I would like to say THANK YOU > FOR SHARING THE VIDEO. > > It was quite entertaining, and I did get a laugh out of it. > > > > NO matter the official rules, it was quite the story. 😊👍😎 > > > > Oh, and GO NAVY…. Even though the Navy jet was a bit slower… LOL > > > > *Lloyd F. Coker* > > *KI5OYC* > > *Email: lloy...@sbcglobal.net <lloy...@sbcglobal.net>* > > *Cypress, Texas 77429* > > > > *From:* BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hardwick via > BVARC > *Sent:* Friday, April 7, 2023 09:00 > *To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <bvarc@bvarc.org> > *Cc:* Mike Hardwick <n5...@att.net>; Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN < > ka8...@ka8kpn.org> > *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] SR-71 Blackbird > > > > Found this on YouTube. > > > > Seems military pilots do this on a regular basis for training. > > > > https://youtu.be/K4HAiieUQHU > > Mike Hardwick. > > > > On Apr 7, 2023, at 7:38 AM, Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN via BVARC < > bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: > > > > I'm sorry, WHAT? > > Look, I've never been a military pilot, but I've been a civil pilot for > like 35 years. I have observed, like up close and personal-like, military > aircraft on military missions landing and doing other operations at civil > airports. As I said, it happens all the time. In fact, civil pilots > communicate with military air controllers all the time in the process of > doing low approaches to airbases, although actually landing at a military > base is generally not done except in an emergency because of all the > permissions you need to get in order to take off again. > > The SR-71 has been flown to airshows, (e.g. "Oshkosh" 1989) although the > versions of the "LA speed check" story that I recall imply that this > particular mission was a training/proficiency flight not flying to or from > an airshow. During cruise an SR-71 does not normally talk to air traffic > control because the requirement to do so ends at a pressure altitude of > 60,000 feet (or "flight level 600") and it flies so fast that the guy in > back would have no time to do anything but tune the radios, but VFR pilots > can request services from an ARTCC and they will be handled on a "workload > available" basis. > > Since I don't know that I can convince you, maybe we should just end this > conversation here. I'll refrain from commenting further if I don't have > any additional thing to add. > > On 4/7/23 06:08, Keith Dutson via BVARC wrote: > > Let me re-phrase that. Military personnel are not allowed these > communications. Military aircraft being flown on non-military missions are > normally piloted by civilians. For example, once at Hooks airport there > were several Osprey aircraft that landed. These planes were being > delivered to a military base. > > > > One key point that the YouTube story is fake is that an SR-71 landed at an > air show. If you learn more about this particular plane, you will find > that it leaks fuel on the flight line, which requires special support. > Plus, a special starter is required to get the engines fired up. At Beale, > each plane was assigned a ground support team of about 200 people for > support. This is why the SR-71 was stationed at only one air base in the > USA. > > > > I learned this from a publication provided by the USAF National Museum, of > which I am a Friends member. > > > > On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 12:35:07 AM CDT, Rick Wannall via BVARC > <bvarc@bvarc.org> <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: > > > > > > >> Military aircraft talk to the same air traffic controllers as everybody > else does. > > > > Thank you. > > > > RW > > > > > > *From:* BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> *On > Behalf Of *Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN via BVARC > *Sent:* Thursday, April 6, 2023 22:01 > *To:* Keith Dutson via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> <bvarc@bvarc.org> > *Cc:* Jonathan Guthrie, KA8KPN <ka8...@ka8kpn.org> <ka8...@ka8kpn.org> > *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] SR-71 Blackbird > > > > Not at all true. Military aircraft talk to the same air traffic > controllers as everybody else does. There's no other way to integrate them > in to the stream of air traffic, and military aircraft use civil airports > all the time. > > On 4/6/23 21:21, Keith Dutson via BVARC wrote: > > Cute story, but totally contrived. Military aircraft are not allowed to > communicate with non-military stations. > > > > 73, Keith NM5G > > > > On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 04:57:56 PM CDT, Dwayne Jones via BVARC > <bvarc@bvarc.org> <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: > > > > > > Yes LA speed story is funny too. > > > > Dwayne > > KB5YTA > > > > On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 3:03 PM Douglas Kimpel via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote: > > Have you heard this one? > > > > (28) The LA Speed Story (2020) - YouTube > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3xaF1sT90U> > > > > *Douglas Kimpel* > > Chief Engineer > > KKHT, KNTH > > Houston,Texas > > 713-260-6129 Office > > 713-206-2146 Cell > > > > *From:* BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> *On Behalf Of *mark janzer via > BVARC > *Sent:* Thursday, April 6, 2023 1:45 PM > *To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <bvarc@bvarc.org> > *Cc:* mark janzer <k5...@yahoo.com> > *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] SR-71 Blackbird > > > > Now that's funny. Thanks for sharing... > > > > On Thursday, April 6, 2023 at 11:23:02 AM CDT, Dwayne Jones via BVARC < > bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: > > > > > > Nice little video about a SR-71 Blackbird buzzing the tower near his air > base. > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTJYNq4GQAE&ab_channel=TAOFLEDERMAUS > > > > Dwayne > > KB5YTA > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org <BVARC@bvarcorg> > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > > > ________________________________________________ > > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > > > BVARC mailing list > > BVARC@bvarc.org > > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > > > ________________________________________________ > > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > > > BVARC mailing list > > BVARC@bvarc.org > > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ >
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