in the 70s the music and video industry tried to prevent piracy by encrypting their music and movies. they barely got the first CDs out the door before there was a program free on the internet to crack the encryption. the military already encrypts their transmissions. we are not allowed to encrypt but everyone else is. I assume that the television industry wants to protect their copyrights on streaming channels and that as soon as it is done there will be a crack for it. definitely not an end to Ham as we know it. Marc.
On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 3:57 PM Chris Boone via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: > uhhh NO AMATEUR frequencies are in jeopardy of being grabbed, > etc..Originally the petitioners wanted 5,10,15,20 and 25 MHz... > > SOUND familiar??? Look at the frequencies they propose now....not far off > WWV....now WWV uses KILOWATTS on their frequencies....don't cause issues > with ham operations....Its NOT a ham spectrum grab... > > Chris > WB5ITT > Trustee, W5APX > > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 05:07:05 PM CDT, Paul Easter via BVARC < > bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: > > > This has been coming for a long time. It is already being done. > > It does seem like a spectrum grab. There are plenty of HF frequencies > they can use without interference to HAM radio. > > ARRL will hopefully prove their worth this time. > > > > On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 3:09 PM Rick Hiller <rickhille...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Submission Comment #2 W5RH > Looking at a bit more detail in Appendix E (Page 74) their study shows > available frequency ranges within 2 to 25 MHz. None of their proposed > bands cover any of our ham bands *EXCEPT 60 Meters, where we have 5 > "channels",* but I think this is shared anyway. > > Their 10, 25 and 50 KHz "channailzed space" ranges come up to the band > edges on a few ham bands NOT JUST 20 MX as has been blogged and youtubed. > Below I have outlined where their study touches our band edges (always > skirting our bands except 60 mx). They claim throughout that they want to > cause NO Interference to existing services (ham, marine, etc.) > > Their study indicates these Frequency bands available 2 to 25 MHz (ref our > bands).... > *Below Above * > *3.4 4.0 80 is 3.5 to 4.0* > *5.4 5.0 (within 60 meters 5.3 to 5.4)* > *7.0 7.4 40 is 7.0 to 7.3* > * 9.995 10.15 30 is 10.100 to 10.150* > *14.0 14.350 20 is 14.0 to 14.350* > *18.068 18.168 17 is 18.068 to 18.168* > *21.00 21.850 15 is 21.0 to 21.450* > *24.89 End 12 is 24.890 to 24.990* > > Looked up in the license database. None of the commenting parties is a > ham except maybe John Madigan (AC0GP -- maybe). > > Also, have a look at what they intend to do. These shortwave HF links are > to benefit High-Frequency stock trading. (high frequency is not meaning RF > but the speed of the trade data xfer). Using shortwave will reduce the > latency times for the transfer of applicable stock data. Not using > satellites or the internet will cut milli seconds off of their transfer > times. HFT is a crazy way to trade stocks.. Google HFT and read on > Wikipedia. > > 73...Rick W5RH > > > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 6:43 PM Rick Hiller <rickhille...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > A cursory read through the proposal and attached amendments shows that > they have done their homework in all aspects. The various companies have > been running experiments on air for the past 4 years. (experimental call > signs are listed) Seems like they wish to run 20KW to a 10dBi antenna on > transmit and have a simple vertical whip on the receive end. They also > propose interference avoidance and frequency jumping.... kind of like ALE. > Freqs used were 4.9, 10.2, 14.9 19.9 and 24.8 with a bandwidth of 10 KHz. > > In their initial paragraphs they mention avoidance interference to > amateur, marine and aeronautical. No mention of military in there that I > saw. > > Again, this was my 30 minute read of the various sections which means that > I was looking for pertinent information relating to us hams. I am > sure there is more to be found and corrected with a further read. > > Just my $.02 for now.....73...Rick W5RH > > On Sat, Jul 15, 2023 at 5:54 PM JP Pritchard via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> > wrote: > > Thanks for the reply Bill. As Jim Heath points out in this video, the > deadline for comment is two weeks away. My first thought is, we might > (emphasis MIGHT) be better off to express our immediate concern to the ARRL > defense of spectrum lobbyists, in hopes that they could help convey what > they know to the rest of us (beyond what's in the petition) to give Ham > World a chance to weigh in. But whatever we do we're already late in the > process and big money backing this plan already has a big edge on us, if > there is something here to be worried about. > > Any thoughts from others? Time is running out. Let's hear it! > > JP > > On 07/15/2023 4:55 PM CDT Bill Cordell via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: > > > > JP: > > We may want to convene a committee of interested people to talk about what > is proposed. There are so many variables, not to mention the costs to > construct and run a digital transmitter. Also, who has digital receivers? > Currently there are limited AM shortwave receivers for that industry is > dying (like the majority of the over-the-air broadcast stations due to the > ubiquitous and massively increasing wireless internet).. > > Bill > > > > *From:* BVARC <bvarc-boun...@bvarc.org> *On Behalf Of *JP Pritchard via > BVARC > *Sent:* Saturday, July 15, 2023 3:47 PM > *To:* BRAZOS VALLEY AMATEUR RADIO CLUB <bvarc@bvarc.org> > *Cc:* JP Pritchard <jppn...@comcast.net> > *Subject:* Re: [BVARC] Will This Petition Before The FCC Bring An End To > Amateur Radio As We Know It Or Am I Wrong Jim W6LG - YouTube > > > > How 'bout a couple of our broadcast engineers to respond to this... Paul, > Bill, Chris, Bob? > > On 07/15/2023 3:25 PM CDT K5BOU via BVARC <bvarc@bvarc.org> wrote: > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeG00x89ATI > > > > [image: image001.png] > > K5BOU-PhilippeBoucaumont > > Houston*|*Texas*|*USA*|* > > https://mccrarymeadowsweather.com/ > > [image: image002.png][image: image003.png][image: image004.jpg][image: > image005.gif] > > > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > > > > -- > Rick Hiller > *e-mail: rickhille...@gmail.com <rickhille...@gmail.com>* > *Cell: 832-474-3713* > *Physical: 9031 Troulon Drive* > * Houston, TX 77036* > > > > -- > Rick Hiller > *e-mail: rickhille...@gmail.com <rickhille...@gmail.com>* > *Cell: 832-474-3713* > *Physical: 9031 Troulon Drive* > * Houston, TX 77036* > > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ > ________________________________________________ > Brazos Valley Amateur Radio Club > > BVARC mailing list > BVARC@bvarc.org > http://mail.bvarc.org/mailman/listinfo/bvarc_bvarc.org > Publicly available archives are available here: > https://www.mail-archive.com/bvarc@bvarc.org/ >
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